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mndfusion

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I just finished loading 20 shells of 7mm mag with my new lee-loading tool. I am new to this -- and loaded 10 shells with 60 gr. of powder, and 10 with 64 gr.

7 mag.
140 sierra gameking
h4831sc
cci mag. primers
win brass


I am wondering???? how low can I go on the powder??? b4 I notice accuracy diminished? I was wanting to load up somthing along the lines of a 7-08 in power?? --- Is that possable?
 
I don't understand your question about how long you can go on that powder before you notice an accuracy decrease. But to answer your other question about loading a 7mm Magnum down to achieve 7mm-08 power; yes, you sure can. That load you mentioned of 60.0 grains of H4831sc behind a 140 grain Sierra Game King bullet in a 7mm Magnum case should be pretty close to 7mm-08 power, and maybe a bit less. 64.0 grains of H4831sc behind a 140 grain Sierra Game King bullet in a 7mm Magnum case is probably a bit more powerful than a 7mm-08 though, at least according to my Sierra loading manual. I load both the 7mm-08 and the 7mm Remington Mag for mule deer. I like 140 grain bullets in the 7mm-08 over 760 powder, but I use 160 grain bullets over RL-22 powder in the 7mm Remington Mag. Both rifles belong to my wife and neither one has ever failed to put down any mule deer she put the crosshairs on.
 
thx SS I dont think I worded that question right,,, and Annglishh is my 1st language!

Hey what I am was-am wondering is -- how low I can measure the powder I am using with good result? Theree r so many differnt types of powderr thats one of the most interesting area's of reloading I have found...I have a book with all the differnt types of powder and just was wondering....

Lets say I want to emmulate a 7mm mauser load in my 7mm rem mag case....should I buy different powder???????

THX
 
IMR 4350 powder is a favorite for 7x57....does it make any sense at all to buy some to load in a magnum case?:confused:
 
Oh, okay – I think I got it now. For significantly reduced loads in your 7mm Magnum you’re going to want to use a different powder. Every reloading manual I have states in bold letters to not reduce powder charges below the minimums listed. And at 60 grains of H4831 behind a 140 grain Sierra Game King, you’re already .4 grains below the minimum listed in my latest Sierra manual.
H4831 is a relatively “slow burning” rifle powder. For reduced charges it’s better to use a “faster burning” powder, such as SR4759. You can explore your options for reduced loads in loading manuals, which you should have a couple of. I recommend Speer and/or Lyman manuals.
There are quite a few reasons why you shouldn’t go below minimum powder charges listed in loading manuals. One reason applies to slow burning powders in large capacity cases and it’s so controversial I won’t even state it. But I will state this; on pages 62-63 of the Speer Reloading Manual #13, Speer warns against excessive load reductions of slow-burning rifle powders in large capacity cases. H4831 is a relatively slow-burning rifle powder and the 7mm Remington Magnum is a relatively large capacity case.
To answer your second question about IMR4350 - yeah, it should work well in a 7mm Magnum, though I personally have not tried it. But the thing is, according to the charts, IMR4350 is not all that much faster burning than H4831. A little faster maybe, but not enough so that you'll be able to significantly reduce powder charges.
I'm having a bit of a tough time explaining what I mean to say. See, duplicating 7mm-08 or 7mm Mauser power with a 7mm Remington Magnum is not a problem with either of the powders you asked about. Where you're likely to run into problems with those powders is when you try to duplicate 7mm BR or 7mm IHMSA powers with a 7mm Remington Magnum. With those cartridges, you're talking about kicking that 140 grain Sierra out at only around 2000 fps. To do that with a 7mm Remington Magnum case, you should be using a lot faster burning powder.
 
Whoa! OK -- so I am going to need a different powder,dang! thx! to emulate the 7x57 or 7-08 in my 7mm rem mag case's.:confused: I was thinking a faster burning power would be requied but I dont have any reloading manuals yet. OMG!



sorting rifle SR
SR4759 sounds like what I am looking for, thats what some use for handguns though right??? and cases up to 45-70 according to the -novice- LEE manual I have.

I'd really like to know how much to use in a 7remmag case to make somthing like 7mm mauser.
 
I just found a description of H4895 powder, LEE says it works well in reduced power-light loadings -- up to 60% below maximum.
 
Somewhere between 60.5 and 62.5 grains of H4831 should kick that 140 grain Sierra out of your 7mm Magnum at about 2800 fps according to the Sierra Manual I have in front of me. 2800 fps with that bullet is about the best (highest) velocity you're likely to get when you're shooting it out of a 7mm Mauser (7x57). The thing is this though - it only takes about 52 grains of H4831 in a 7x57 case, compared to about 62 grains of H4831 in a 7mm Magnum case in order to push that same 140 grain Sierra out at 2800fps. It all amounts to the pressure behind the bullet. The smaller the case, the less of the same type powder it takes to develop the same pressure. It's physics.
I strongly recommend you get a reloading manual mndfusion. Since you're using Sierra bullets, maybe a Sierra manual would be best. But IMO, both the Speer and Lyman manuals are better choices for learning the basics.
I'd be talking through my hat if I said much about SR4759 powder. I've never had any experience with it. I only know that it's what my latest Speer Manual recommends for reduced loads in a 7mm Remington Magnum.:)
 
wow thx SS, that really helps!

chk it out cool link:
"Reiber said he has never had much luck with reduced loads in small-bore magnum cartridges. “Say you’re shooting a 140-grain bullet at 3,200 feet per second from a 7mm magnum. You can switch to H4895 powder to reduce velocity to 2,600 fps, and that will work okay because the powder still takes up about 60 percent of the powder space. But to reduce the velocity of magnum cartridges slower than that, down to say 2,000 fps, it’s difficult to get uniform velocities.”

http://www.gunhuntermag.com/features/060516Loads.htm
 
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