Arkel23
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I never ask questions about guns on there, I'm just commenting on most of the answers on there.
7mm rem mag-.300 wby mag.
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No, I don't find it particularly annoying when residents of Alaska or Wyoming express opinions.
I agree with Arkel23 that most such people have likely never moved beyond the second-rate hunting in their native states to pursue the premium hunting opportunities available in South Carolina ... but that should not disentitle them to an opinion on whether a magnum rifle is essential for a small animal like a whitetail. Or an opinion any other topic, for that matter.
But that's just me. Since it obviously does bother Arkel23, I respectfully suggest that he simply ignore their posts. Problem solved.
What a fascinating thread this has been.
I agree with Arkel23 that most such people have likely never moved beyond the second-rate hunting in their native states to pursue the premium hunting opportunities available in South Carolina ... but that should not disentitle them to an opinion on whether a magnum rifle is essential for a small animal like a whitetail. Or an opinion any other topic, for that matter.
But that's just me. Since it obviously does bother Arkel23, I respectfully suggest that he simply ignore their posts. Problem solved.
What a fascinating thread this has been.
Arkel23
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Not only the animal, but for the region also. If I hunt in SC only I can't tell you what kind of shot you will take all the way across the country.
bamawrx
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I can see how that would be annoying. I hunt with a 7mm mag with ballistic cams zeroed out to 700 yards. I haven't had the time to work it out further yet, which would be just for fun. It's not too much gun for white tail deer, and the extra juice sure is nice when you want to hunt a power line. The furthest kill I've made with it was 458 yards, which is nothing to the long range shooters but that is far for most deer hunters. I love the ability to dial my MK4 to 100 yards when I climb or dial it to 400 yards on a wide open farmers field. I know the 7mm mag has the power to get there and do the job if I do mine, and the MK4 can dial it in if I can range it.
On a side note, the worst wound I saw last year was caused by a .223. It was ridiculously nasty. We killed about 120 deer on our lease last year, which is about right for 7,000 acres. Anyhow, I never hear anyone saying the .223 is too much rifle. Bullet design is a very important factor.
On a side note, the worst wound I saw last year was caused by a .223. It was ridiculously nasty. We killed about 120 deer on our lease last year, which is about right for 7,000 acres. Anyhow, I never hear anyone saying the .223 is too much rifle. Bullet design is a very important factor.
Reid73, the ranges are no more and no less depending on where you are at, and hunting.
When I was younger (and had no money for decent rifles, only a shotgun) it was not uncommon to enter a beanfield and be able the see trophy bucks at 500 or 600 yds, and tell without a doubt they were trophy bucks. Nothing I could do but look and admire.
The term "beanfield rifle" originated in South Carolina. 300 to 400 yard shots were not uncommon.
I used to hunt with big mags, that shot flat, and delivered at the end. I've used .300's, .338's, 7mm's. The last big mag I used was a .340 Wby mag. Look up the energy and ballistics on that one.
I've since downsized to a 7mm mag, I figure there's only a couple of places I hunt that I may pull it out for. Other than that, most of my shots will be 200 yds or less. 308 and below range.
Out west there are mountains and gullies, and plains. In SC there swamps. Most of the swamps are next to fields and power lines. If you don't put a deer down decisively, you may never find it, even if was a good kill shot.
When I was younger (and had no money for decent rifles, only a shotgun) it was not uncommon to enter a beanfield and be able the see trophy bucks at 500 or 600 yds, and tell without a doubt they were trophy bucks. Nothing I could do but look and admire.
The term "beanfield rifle" originated in South Carolina. 300 to 400 yard shots were not uncommon.
I used to hunt with big mags, that shot flat, and delivered at the end. I've used .300's, .338's, 7mm's. The last big mag I used was a .340 Wby mag. Look up the energy and ballistics on that one.
I've since downsized to a 7mm mag, I figure there's only a couple of places I hunt that I may pull it out for. Other than that, most of my shots will be 200 yds or less. 308 and below range.
Out west there are mountains and gullies, and plains. In SC there swamps. Most of the swamps are next to fields and power lines. If you don't put a deer down decisively, you may never find it, even if was a good kill shot.
Acera
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Arkel23, I am also amused about how some think the question is now about Yahoo now. I think you could have substituted any number of websites in your example and got the same response. (Including this one.)
ArmedBear wrote:
I found Arkel23s question legitimate and pertinent, no need to defend that. There is no defense for the folks who can't understand the simple question it proposed.
(JShirley, your an admin so I guess your statement must be true.............. )
ArmedBear wrote:
So now you are criticizing Arkel23 and his OP? If you did not like the OP why did you respond? Or did you respond, then figure it out, and are trying to cover your tracks?
I found Arkel23s question legitimate and pertinent, no need to defend that. There is no defense for the folks who can't understand the simple question it proposed.
(JShirley, your an admin so I guess your statement must be true.............. )
Arkel23
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Whose whining? I asked a simple Yes or No question.
Arkel23
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Ok, excuse me.
Acera
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So JShirley you are calling me a pretentious whiner because you did not understand, or as you claim, did not respond to the real question?
Can this be construed as a direct personal attack emulating from your inability to cover your backside effectively because you realized you fell into the stereotype that the OP was pointing out?
I just find this thread very enlightening because of the responses and the lack of understanding among the members, and now the staff, as to it's true intent.
I don't think I am whining, but pointing out the obvious.
So go ahead and use your admin powers and lock it, that is what you all do in these situations, right?? It seems to have made it's point.
Can this be construed as a direct personal attack emulating from your inability to cover your backside effectively because you realized you fell into the stereotype that the OP was pointing out?
I just find this thread very enlightening because of the responses and the lack of understanding among the members, and now the staff, as to it's true intent.
I don't think I am whining, but pointing out the obvious.
So go ahead and use your admin powers and lock it, that is what you all do in these situations, right?? It seems to have made it's point.
Acera
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You are correct Reid73, that was not an accurate reflection of my opinion. I could have used a better choice of words, but I did not want to say something like "as clueless as the others."
MCgunner
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Texas has open country and Texas has dense brush and Texas has senderos and Texas has dense pine forests and I've hunted it all, so I am qualified to comment......but, I won't......
Arkel23
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Maybe pointless to you, but that's ok.
Arkel23
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OOOOk?? lol
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