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Local shop has a Rem 870 Express for $129.00 and it has a wood stock in good condition, 26"VR barrel with chokes. The only problem that I see is that the finish is really thin on the receiver and you can see the two pins on the left side. I don't have a 870 yet and think this would make a good project/beat around the brush gun. Would you have brought it home?


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There is a nice Win M12 12ga in great condition for about $270 also.:evil:
 
I'd jump on the 870. Refinish can be as easy as a can of flat black lacquer. Think "camo" turkey gun. :D

I'm not at all up on M12's, that may be an outstanding price depending on condition.
 
Jump on both of them. The 870 is a great price, and the M12 is pretty good especially if it is a pre 64 model. Post 64 had a Y prefix IIRC.
 
That's a really good price on an Express. If it had an aluminum trigger plate (push up the lifter while looking down the bottom of the gun, toward the front of the trigger plate inside the receiver- if you see two little whitish rectangles, it's aluminum), an old style safety (the nonlocking kind, as far as I know none with aluminum trigger plates had locking safeties) and no dimples on the magazine tube, I would be absolutely forced to adopt it and bring it home so it could have a good home with its sister Cinderella 870s.

Even if it is a newer version with dimples and a plastic trigger plate, that is a good price. All that can be fixed, and the plastic trigger plates in truth seem to hold up just as well. It's just that I am an old fuddyduddy and lazy to boot.

BTW, I think you are talking about seeing the heads of the rivets holding in the ejector, not pins. There are two pins holding in the trigger plate, they are close to the bottom of the receiver and are visible on both sides. The ejector rivets are on the left side toward the top of the receiver. Sometimes they are left protruding a bit during finishing and wear a bit faster, thus becoming more visible than ordinarily is the case. Finish wear on well used Expresses is a given, but they can be phosphate finished and hold up quite well.

That seems a good price on the Model 12 too, by local standards. If it were a good tight take-down model with a 2 3/4" chamber, it might get to join the collection here too.

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I had a mag extension laying around here for the Remington 870/1000 12ga. so I had to make a choice to either sell the darn thing or buy a gun to use it on. ( Life is full of hard choices ! )

A quick trip to one of my favorite local shops and I had my choice of three 870's for a price of $125.00 I bought a magnum Wingmaster made in 1965 The other ones were a newer express and an earlier Wingmaster in 2&3/4" chambering. $129 is not a bad price .
 
Lee Lapin, you are correct about the heads of the rivets holding the ejector. They are both perfectly smooth with the receiver, it's just the finish is thin, the barrel and receiver aren't scratched but thin. I looked at the trigger guard also and it seemed to be aluminum but I'll check it like you said.:)

The Winchester has a 2.75" chamber with a ventilated rib and full choke. The blue is in great shape and so is the wood. It's a pre 64 with matching numbers.:)

It's going to be a tuff choice when I go back to the shop.:banghead:
 
I wouldn't touch that if I where you. Where did you say that gun shop was?:evil:
 
Not having seen these two guns in person...

At least based on the going prices around here, the Model 12 sounds like the better deal. A used Express is normally a little shy of $200. A Model 12 in the condition you describe (if it doesn't have a Polychoke) would be at least $100 higher.

That being said, I'm inclined to vote "Both".
 
Well I brought home the Rem 870 Magnum. The guy behind the counter dropped the price down to $119 and I had a $25 discount. The total cost out the door was $101.59

I brought it home and fired 5 rounds and everthing is working great.:D The trigger guard is metal also. I'll get a rifled barrel and use this as a loaner shotgun for when deer season comes around.:D

I passed on the Win M12 only because I have a couple already.:rolleyes:
 
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