9mm rimmed Federal ammo
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Mike Irwin
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Good luck.
Hardly any had made it to the market before Charter Arms went nips up.
Federal stopped shipping it. Rumor is that they have a couple million rounds in storage, but won't release it.
Hardly any had made it to the market before Charter Arms went nips up.
Federal stopped shipping it. Rumor is that they have a couple million rounds in storage, but won't release it.
tbeb
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Check online gun auctions like gunbroker.com and auctionarms.com
(Last Federal 9mm rimmed I saw there was like $50 a box.)
(Last Federal 9mm rimmed I saw there was like $50 a box.)
P95Carry
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Sounds like ''find'' ..... ''get'' ........''aquire'' ....... purloign'' ......... any brass you can .... and then get dies and reload!!
Sad ----- if stuff stockpiled.
Sad ----- if stuff stockpiled.
Archie
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You might see about....
trimming .38 Special cases to the proper length, resizing with 9x19 dies and see if that works.
trimming .38 Special cases to the proper length, resizing with 9x19 dies and see if that works.
WonderNine
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Not to hijack the thread too much, but whatever happened to Charter Arms anways? Who bought them? I know they're back with recent revolvers that some people claim are about as good as the ones they put out in the 70's-early 80's. Or "as good as a Taurus" and have a nice finish.
Jeff OTMG
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So you must have a S&W 940 and a couple of speed strips as well. I found a couple of boxes at a gun show and picked them up.
Mike Irwin
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The original Charter Arms went belly up around 1989, IIRC.
Then it became Charco, or something like that, and quickly developed a reputation for terrible guns.
That went belly up, and now I believe it's back once again as Charter Arms 2000.
I'm not sure, but I don't think any of the companies really had anything to do with each other.
As for trimming and resizing .38 Special, I really think I'd want to do that with .357 Mag. brass to get the benefit of the stronger case head.
Then it became Charco, or something like that, and quickly developed a reputation for terrible guns.
That went belly up, and now I believe it's back once again as Charter Arms 2000.
I'm not sure, but I don't think any of the companies really had anything to do with each other.
As for trimming and resizing .38 Special, I really think I'd want to do that with .357 Mag. brass to get the benefit of the stronger case head.
stans
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Ummmm... didn't the 9mm Federal have a really thick rim, much thicker than 38 Special/357 Magnum?
Jim Watson
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No.
9mm Federal has a standard rim and is not "9mm Auto Rim" and is not for use in clipguns like S&W 940 or SP101 without clips. Nor a Taurus 905.
Apart from Charter's business faults there was some worry that a 9mm Federal would chamber in a a .38 S&W at three times the pressure.
9mm Federal has a standard rim and is not "9mm Auto Rim" and is not for use in clipguns like S&W 940 or SP101 without clips. Nor a Taurus 905.
Apart from Charter's business faults there was some worry that a 9mm Federal would chamber in a a .38 S&W at three times the pressure.
JNewell
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I could be wrong (wouldn't be the first time), but I could have sworn the boxes of Fed 9R that I've seen at shows said exactly that -- 9mm Auto Rim or something like that.
If they weren't marketed for the 9x19 revolvers, what for?
cookhj
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you know, i was trying to find some 9mm federal for a friend of mine. i did find some on some website (can't remember, took a while to find it) and it was going for $2 a round. i also read on another website that you can just resize .38 S&W in a 9mm die and load it to 9x19 specs.
Dave Markowitz
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The round was designed for revolvers made by Charter Arms in 9mm Federal. Market response was underwhelming.
Mike Irwin
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Market response never really had time to develop.
Charter died about 3 months after announcing the Pit Bull.
Charter died about 3 months after announcing the Pit Bull.
only1asterisk
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If your chambers are cut to properly headspace on the case mouth (they should be, regardless of moonclips) then 9mm Federal should chamber and fire with no problems. Since the same size Taurus is made in 38 Special, rim interference shouldn't be an issue.
By headspacing on the case mouth, you should also be able to make rimmed 9mm cases from 38 S&W cases. Trim them to .76", run them trough a 9mm die, trim them to final lenght and load them. Keep them out of old 38 S&W revolvers. There should be enough room in speedloaders for the 605 to allow you to load these cases, but maybe not. I'd be curious enough to check.
David
By headspacing on the case mouth, you should also be able to make rimmed 9mm cases from 38 S&W cases. Trim them to .76", run them trough a 9mm die, trim them to final lenght and load them. Keep them out of old 38 S&W revolvers. There should be enough room in speedloaders for the 605 to allow you to load these cases, but maybe not. I'd be curious enough to check.
David
IIRC, the 9mm Federal was intended for use in those revolvers which fired 9mm Luger/Parabellum with modified extractors rather than moon clips. It is not, in other words, a "9mm Auto Rim" requiring a large headspace. The Charter Arms revolver will supposedly chamber and fire both 9mm Federal and 9mm Luger, but would not have proper extraction with the latter, and cases would have to be pulled/punched out individually.
As only1asterisk says, regular 9mm should work OK, and I think the other options on making cases should work, though I have not tried.
Jim
As only1asterisk says, regular 9mm should work OK, and I think the other options on making cases should work, though I have not tried.
Jim
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