9mm short?

[Jo Mama]

I saw a beretta 84 i think in 9mm short, never heard of it. Is it a .380? whats a good price for one?

 

[Preacherman]

Yep - .380 ACP = 9mm. Short = 9mm. Kurz (the original German designation for this round).

I don't know what a good price would be, though... anyone else?

 

[priv8ter]

Argh

As far as I understand, the M84 is the same gun as the Browning BDA .380...or vice versa.

If you ask around, people are likely to tell you that they are too big and heavy to be a .380. I was looking at one before I decided to get a Firestorm .380 instead.

If memory serves me, I think they are in the 400ish range, but I'm probably wrong.

 

[duckfoot]

Got a Browning BDA paid $380 for it but see them as high as $500 the 84s might be around $400 to $500 range but if want a good little shooter I would recommend the BDA.

Up side

Small, light (to me) and very accurate

Down side

As thick as 92s, and pricy ammo


Just My .02 to be taken with salt

Duck

 

[Mike Irwin]

Also known, and see, as the 9mm Corto (Spanish for short).

 

[Marko Kloos]

9mm Short, 9mm Kurz, 9mm Corto, .380ACP, 9x17mm...all the same. The Cartridge of A Thousand Names.

The Beretta 84 is a classic example of the old-school blowback .380s, and one of the prettiest guns ever made.

The Browning BDA is essentially the same gun, but with a closed slide and a slide-mounted safety.

 

[1911Tuner]

The Beretta M-84...

...is a nice little double-stack .380 autopistol. If I were inclined to
carry a .380, that would be my hands-down choice.

Enjoy!

Tuner

 

[buttrap]

Well actually a BDA is a 84 Beretta that says Browning BDA above the Beretta fine print on the slide....same exact gun and yes it has the Beretta style open top slide too.

 

[1911Tuner]

BDA/M-84

The hammer is different, and the way that the safety disengages
is...or was...different. The last Beretta that I had, the thumb safety
worked like the 1911, while the Browning was a hammer-dropper/
push up to fire, which is interesting...

Cheers!
Tuner

 

[Marko Kloos]

Well actually a BDA is a 84 Beretta that says Browning BDA above the Beretta fine print on the slide....same exact gun and yes it has the Beretta style open top slide too.

Well, actually it's not.

The BDA has a slide-mounted safety, the Beretta 84 has a frame-mounted safety. The Browning has a closed slide with a smallish ejection port, the Beretta has the open-topped slide that exposes the barrel from breechface to front sight. The only Beretta marking on the BDA is a small "PB" logo on the slide, otherwise it's marked "Fabrique Nationale Herstal/Made in Italy". The Browning has a spur hammer, the Beretta a ring-type hammer. Their magazines are interchangeable, though.

Here's a pic of a Browning BDA in nickel finish:

Here's a picture of a Beretta 84. This one has the squared trigger guard; the earlier variants have a rounded one:

 

[stevelyn]

The Cartridge of a Thousand Names.

1001..........380ACP = A 9mm on stun.

 

[rbert0005]

If you want to carry consider the model 85. Same great gun but in single. I have one in nickle it shoots every kind of ammo I have fed it, so it is not all that expensive, and shoots it well.

Bob

 

[4v50 Gary]

Kurz = German for short
Corto = Spanish for short

Amazing what you learn here.