A .22 for Grizzly?!

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A .22-caliber rifle - for approaching grizzlies


Fishermen enjoying Northern Exposure
By Keith Lair Staff Writer

JUNEAU, Alaska - A bald eagle slowly circled its nest. Two-feet high grass edged against the unnamed river's bank. In the crystal-clear river, at the base of the Slocum Inlet in the Tongass National Forest, millions of pink salmon were swimming upstream and preparing to lay eggs and die. Salmon carcasses littered the banks, with the stench drawing flies and insects. Somewhere upriver, bears certainly were feasting on these same salmon.

There may be more remote fly-fishing destinations in Alaska, but for those wanting to experience it first hand, there is nothing quite like a day trip 30 miles east of the Alaskan state capital. The only way in is by float plane or boat. To get to the nearest road would involve a multi-day hike.

"It can be exhilarating," guide Dan Teske said.

A .22-caliber rifle - for approaching grizzlies - was next to the fly-fishing gear. Teske showed the emergency supplies, "in case we get stuck here overnight and they can't pick us up."

About the only way for a Southern Californian to compare to the remoteness of this Alaskan wilderness is to be taken to Santa Barbara Island by boat, and left on your own.

The DeHaviland Twin Otter seaplane that had dropped a group of San Gabriel Valley-based anglers had powered up and eventually disappeared into the bright blue cloudless sky for the 30-minute flight back to the Juneau fjord, next to the city's airport. Bear Creek Outfitters, of which college student Teske has guided for four years, is one of three Juneau-based guided outfitters. It is the only fly-out outfitter that takes anglers to a river, drops them off and returns later to take them back to the airport. Another outfitter,
Sea Runner Guide Service, offers skiff-based fly-fishing
Alaska Fly `n' Fish Charters offers fly-fishing with nature watching.

"It's a very different experience," Bear Creek owner Mark Kaelke said. "You can go saltwater fishing anywhere on the West Coast. But you can only have an experience like this in Alaska."

Bear Creek hosts 1,600 anglers from May through September. For the most part, anglers are fishing for salmon. Runs of Sockeye and Chinook are in July and August, runs for Pink are July through September and runs for Silver are in September.

In addition, steelhead trout can be caught in May and Dolly Varden trout from May through September,

"People lump what has happened in the Northwest with Alaska," Kaelke said. "Our runs are in really good shape. Our experience is a little unique in that you can go right into the stream and catch them."

That means the chances are extremely likely that the novice fly angler will catch at least one salmon. It's very easy to foul-hook a fish, too. They are so plentiful.

"I just love doing this," Teske said. "The weather does not bother me. I came from Minnesota. There's nothing better than spending a day fishing in the wilderness"

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A.22 would not be my first choice for a bear gun:rolleyes: but as a noise maker, it might work. Bears don't like loud noise and it "might" be enough to scare off an approaching bear.
A.22 is better than nothing, but I would still prefer my Benelli M1 with 8 slugs. Loud and effective;)
 
Only a reporter would be stoopid enough to buy that! Although, they did describe it accurately as a ".22-caliber rifle" an not something exotic like a "22 gauge assault weapon".
 
I can't see what ya problem is.... a .22 rifle should be more than capable of killing a bear.






Just walk up up to the bear an' shove the rifle (butt first)down it's throat and it'll choke to death:evil:
 
a .22 against a Grizzly, huh? Maybe if used as a club, :what: but even if it was used that way, it would probably still be a little too light!
 
You don't have to be faster than the bear, just faster than your companions. And it's easy to run faster that a companion with a bad limp. Hence the .22. :evil:
 
Simple, use a semi-auto .22 to shoot out one eye, once the bear is distracted and in pain, place a follow-up shot the other other eye. Blind bear can't eat ya.

Then again it doesn't say .22LR, could be .223 or 22-250 or something else, but still :uhoh:
 
When I was a kid, my dad told me that Eskimos hunted polar bears with a .22 rifle. They would run up to the bear and the bear would stand up and give them a bear hug and they would shoot them right under the chin.

I believed that story for a long time...
 
Many, many years ago (circa 1960) I remember reading an article in "Field & Stream" about a trapper's widow in Alaska who was still running their traplines out in the boonies. One evening she was walking a trail back to their cabin when a grizzly stood up in front of her at a distance of about 15 yds. She killed it with seven shots to the head from a pump .22. The article said that the fish & game folks confirmed that it was killed by a .22.

.22 would not be my first choice, but if that's all I had I think I would try and at least "give it a shot" as a last resort instead of just running, which is definately a losing battle. At least I'd be a meal that the griz would remember!
 
i read a story about a black bear being killed with one shot from a .22LR once. thing came after an old timer's dog and all he had was his plinker. took some shots, they found the bear the next day with a .22 in a lung. it sounds far-fetched, but it was on a news site... really wish i'd saved it or something. granted, you'd find me out with a 45/70 or .44 mag, so i'm not recommending it, just food for thought.
 
.........:eek: :what:

course, a few weeks back I was watching Tred Barta (think thats his name don't catch it often, the dude that hunts with the longbow and makes his own arrows and stuff) go griz hunting, with his long bow. If someone is crazy enough to go griz hunting with a longbow maybe someone is crazy enough to run up to a bear let it stand up and shoot it under the chin lol
 
My Dad and I used to fish out of Unalakleet, AK, and I well remember the native men there relating hunting everything with a .22 rimfire, from seals and hares to bear. " Shot placement is everything..." and so is economy I suppose !
 
Ten or fifteen years ago, a yearling black bear wandered into town and begain stalking and eating the wily contents of trash cans. Doofus came out and shot the yearling nineteen times with a .22 rifle. Then he awaited his kudos for saving the neighborhood from the marauding bear. Unfortunately for him, DNR arrested him. Cost him several thousand dollars before all was said and done.

Darn idjit. There's not but a couple of counties in Georgia that have an open season on black bears. Burke County isn't one of them.

I've been hunting here all of my life and I've seen bear tracks exactly once around a friend's goat pens. Once we had positively identified the tracks, he started making shooting noises over the protection of his goats. I told him to check first with DNR as it might be cheaper just to shoot the goats-or himself-instead.

Personally, I'd give the bear a goat or so every now and then.
 
course, a few weeks back I was watching Tred Barta (think thats his name don't catch it often, the dude that hunts with the longbow and makes his own arrows and stuff) go griz hunting, with his long bow.
I saw that too. IIRC, there was a guy standing right next to him with a 12-gauge, "just in case."
 
The reference is most likely to the mandatory small aircraft survival kit, which almost always includes one of those survival .22's that fits into its own stock for storage. Most bush pilots keep real artillery close at hand, though they may or may not show their passengers.
 
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