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Uhhhh...Where did you hear that? There is no commonality between German WW II weapons and the Japanese weapons. As far as I know the Japanese received little or no "war technology" from the Germans.
A 99% Nambu type 14 from Simpson's
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on the internet, they send them design or something like that
There may have been more information exchanged than is widely known, but it generally is not reflected in small arms designs. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/German–Japanese_industrial_co-operation_before_and_during_World_War_II One of the worst things the Japanese adopted from pre-war Prussia was their military culture, which the Japanese leaders expanded into a brutal and punitive system that was useful for exploiting peasants but further alienated them from the western world.
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very good read!
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Last time I checked Original Japanese 9mm Revolver ammo went for $6 a round and an unopened box of ammo was worth more than a Japanese 9mm Revolver on the collector market.
Original Nambu Pistol ammo is probably collectible too. Other than the 9mm Revolver and the Type 94, which were crude and utilitarian, the Nambu Pistols were often more status symbols for officers than combat weapons. They were finished well for looks like presentation models.
Original Nambu Pistol ammo is probably collectible too. Other than the 9mm Revolver and the Type 94, which were crude and utilitarian, the Nambu Pistols were often more status symbols for officers than combat weapons. They were finished well for looks like presentation models.
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I shoot my guns, but I would have left that one for someone like you who will conserve it properly. I have collectible guns, but I always buy 'shooter grade' examples. Much more affordable and I don't feel like I'm ruining an investment shooting them. Helluva score, my friend and the price was a bit lower than I expected.
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I think almost all countries finished their small arms nicely in peacetime or early war. Look at a prewar SMLE vs a 1943 No. 4 Mk 1*. Look at a 1934 Mosin vs a 1941. Or a blued early production Colt vs the park’d WWII examples. An early war Walther P38 is a thing of beauty. A later war is not. The Nambu was no exception: 1930s examples are notably nicer than wartime, and a 1941 will be a lot better than a 1945.
My type 26 Japanese revolver isn’t pristine but in terms of the original finish quality I’d put it up there with almost any revolver made. It has a better double action trigger than a prewar Smith & Wesson.
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The prices are going up steadily, though. No more WW2-era guns are being made, for sure. I mean, Moisin-Nagants have always had collectors, but the days of being able to pick one out of a wooden barrel in a gun store corner for $75 are looooong gone. And the wartime-use, pre-war manufacture guns were broadly made to commercial standard before their wartime use, so it's super cool to see that. Nice gun!
... never thought I'd say that about a Nambu LOL.
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Might as well not try. You'll never find the .36 Special Rimless ammo for it.
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You're right ! Been looking for years! The damn stuff is about as common as Nambu ammo!
Maybe I'll find some ammo some day and go ahead and shoot the snot out of that brand old (new) Hi-Power. Then I can take solace by knowing that by doing so I lowered the value of the gun by so much that I could have just bought a beater to shoot for less than the depreciation value I just inflicted on the new gun.
All levity aside, If I shot that new Hi-power a moderate amount it really wouldn't lower it's value by THAT much.... but I'm still not gonna do it! I must adhere to the second commandment of the Collector's Creed:
"Thou shalt not shoot classic old guns that have never been fired after leaving the factory..." Or something like that ... I think...
Screw it! I'm gonna shoot it tomorrow!!!
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YES!!!!!!!!!!!’nnnn!!!!!!!You're right ! Been looking for years! The damn stuff is about as common as Nambu ammo!
Maybe I'll find some ammo some day and go ahead and shoot the snot out of that brand old (new) Hi-Power. Then I can take solace by knowing that by doing so I lowered the value of the gun by so much that I could have just bought a beater to shoot for less than the depreciation value I just inflicted on the new gun.
All levity aside, If I shot that new Hi-power a moderate amount it really wouldn't lower it's value by THAT much.... but I'm still not gonna do it! I must adhere to the second commandment of the Collector's Creed:
"Thou shalt not shoot classic old guns that have never been fired after leaving the factory..." Or something like that ... I think...
Screw it! I'm gonna shoot it tomorrow!!!
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I just got an email from Steinel that the Nambu ammo I’ve had on backorder for going on 2 years is ready to ship. They’re still showing OOS and not accepting orders but I suggest keeping an eye out. Once they catch up on backorders they may have some left.
Update: I just got off the phone with Andy at Steinel. I was trying to add a couple more boxes to my order. No go. He said they got components to fill half of the back orders. The next batch of components will fill the rest and they hope to be back in stock for new sales by April. He said the best thing to do is to put in a "notify me by when back in stock" email on the website. BTW when I bought mine it was $55 a box. Price is up to $70. As I prepaid they honored the old price.
Update: I just got off the phone with Andy at Steinel. I was trying to add a couple more boxes to my order. No go. He said they got components to fill half of the back orders. The next batch of components will fill the rest and they hope to be back in stock for new sales by April. He said the best thing to do is to put in a "notify me by when back in stock" email on the website. BTW when I bought mine it was $55 a box. Price is up to $70. As I prepaid they honored the old price.
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Thanks for the update, Jimbo80 ! I may have to start looking for a shooter...
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I know the Germans sent the design and manufacturing information for one of the Daimler-Benz engine they were using in their Messerchmitt fighters to the Japanese. The Japanese put it into production and used it in the army's "Tony" fighter and the navy's "Judy" dive bomber. They also sent a batch of 20mm aircraft cannon (200, I think, via submarine) which the Japanese used in the early production Tonys. I think the Germans also sent a 13mm aircraft machine gun design the Japanese put into production.
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Thanks, I did not know about Steinels! They also have 7.65mm French Long and 9mm Largo, which is nice for the owners of sound pistols in those calibers. I would get the 7.65mm Long quick if I wanted any - I think there are more 9mm Largos around, and Largo is the more potent cartridge.
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Early type 94s were very well fitted and finished. They had one in the Rock Island Arsenal Museum that would make a Luger look ugly.
