A couple questions about bullpups...

[insidious_calm]

I was thinking about getting one of those muzzlelite bullpup stocks. Are they even worth tinkering with? Also I thought they used to make one for an 870 but now see no mention of it? Anyone have or ever used one of these?


Also, anyone have any experience with the bushmaster m17 bullpup? Price seems reasonable. Are they durable?


Thanks.

I.C.

 

[Fletchette]

I've heard that the Muzzlelites required a lot of tweeking, and felt flimsy, but this is second-hand info.

M17s seem to be pretty reliable. I've shot a few - reliable and accurate. Gun Tests liked them, but said it took some getting used to. The extruded aluminum body is definitely durable. Only complaints I've heard is the lack of iron sights (which most people abandon now days anyhow - look at all the ARs with optics hanging on them) and no forward bolt assist.

One other thing - just about every bullpup has a gritty trigger compared to a standard rifle due to extra linkage. This may be something to consider if you are looking for mor of a sniper type weapon.

 

[MrMurphy]

The Muzzlelite stock suck. Badly.

The M17S is a bit butt heavy, the iron sights do suck and the charging handle requires removing the gun from the shoulder to use.
In the case of the M17S I'd take an M4 first.

The Steyr Aug is nice, but no longer imported and rather expensive. It was also DESIGNED to be a bullpup.

 

[BrokenPaw]

I own a Bushy M17S. I like it a lot. The iron sights are horrible, though; I have an EOTech holosight strapped to the top of it. Unfortunately its rail is so high above the bore (think 4+ inches between bore and reticle) that a zero at any distance shoots very low at any closer distance.

Good things I've noticed about it:
It's short, but has a long barrel.
Its trigger can be smoothed up a bit with little enough effort.
It's very comfortable to shoot.
It's got that "gee-whiz" cool-factor at the range.
It uses the same mags and ammo that my ARs use.

Bad things I've noticed:
It heats up relatively quickly and stays hot after a couple hundred rounds. (Too hot to comfortably hold the front handguard).
It's finicky about what magazines will seat in it.
It has a higher number of failures-to-feed than either of my ARs.
You can't even begin to think about shooting it left-handed (you could, in an emergency, do this with an AR, and hope you don't get bad things in your face; not so with a bullpup -- it'd be ejecting right into your left cheek).

I'm considering selling it, just because I already have a fixed-stock 20" AR and a telestock 16" AR, so my needs in the 5.56 realm are pretty well covered.

-BP

 

[insidious_calm]

Okay, how about ASA's side charging AR uppers? Anyone heard/know anything about them? You prolly guessed I'm looking for MY present!



I.C.