They are Egyptian, used by their Military at some time. Hit and miss on function. Poor quality control. I have one that is good for a plinker. Never any probs. But some guys are unhappy with them. 4 inch barel, single stack mag, small sites. I paid $ 150 in 1989 for mine NIB. My first 9 mm. A little more money could get you a used S&W or a Ruger. There was a review done here by a member a while back . Do a search.