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A Human Right Sighting

Discussion in 'General Gun Discussions' started by atek3, Oct 11, 2004.

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  1. atek3

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    They could've picked a better model.

    I wouldn't trust that kid to watch my back in CounterStrike. :neener:
     
  3. Kaylee

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    "That kid" is a she. The two of them are a couple, if I remember correctly.
    I'm sure Oleg could fill in the rest of the details, should he be so inclined. :)
     
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    The text should read: "Responsible people {plural} protect their families {plural}" rather than "family {singular}."
     
  5. Oleg Volk

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    Was it in the printed or on-line version? I'd like to see the original, since they used my image.
     
  6. atek3

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    in print
     
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    Oleg Volk Moderator Emeritus

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    Could you scan or photograph the page for me? I am curious if it was modified in any way, and if it was properly attributed.
     
  8. papercut

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    There're several bookstores very near me that carry The Economist. I'll stop by in the morning and pick up the current issue. If you can't get a scan from someone, PM me and I'll mail the issue to you (if the one on the rack tomorrow has the pic).
     
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    please do papercut. I saw it several days ago and ment to post about it but forgot. Then I went back and that copy was stolen from my friends common area. So its probably within the last 2 issues.

    thanks,
    at3k3
     
  10. Larry Ashcraft

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    Or: "A responsible person (singular) would protect his (singular) family (singular)".

    Either way, point taken. The sentence is downright iliiterate.
     
  11. atek3

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    daaang, are you going to take that Oleg?
    :)
    atek3
     
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    Hey now, be nice.

    Oleg can be called many things, first and formost 'defender of firearm rights' - illiterate is not one of them...

    I'll comment upon one person's remark

    It's the fact that an apparently unable to protect herself woman like the woman in the photo, is able to protect her family with a firearm that makes the cause so important.
     
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    Huh ... well now it makes a little more sense to me ... I always thought it was a mother and son (apologies to the ladies :uhoh: )
     
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    Was there an editorial on the sufficiency of the weapon?:D :scrutiny: :D
     
  15. Oleg Volk

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    That poster dates back many years. My English wasn't as good back then. When I find the Photoshop original, I will re-edit it.
     
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    Oleg,

    Send them a nice letter requesting your standard compensation for your work when it appears in a for-profit use without your prior consent. I think $1,000 should cover it. That's cheaper on their end then defending against a copyright violation case.
     
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    geekWithA.45 Moderator Emeritus

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    Oleg,

    Having been a published writer in a previous career, you should know that the tradition is to compensate the writer/artist at 3X-4X whatever the standard rate is for uncompensated use of materials.

    Ages ago, an editor called me about a day before the print run started of his magazine, which included a manuscript I had tossed over the transom many months prior. He was aghast when he realized I hadn't been paid, and it was his #1 priority of the day to get a check into my hands.

    IIRC, it was $400 for what became a 2/3 page detail callout supporting a larger article.

    :)
     
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    Oleg, me thinks you should probably put a sig line on the bottom of your images in case they get pirated?
     
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    If all members of a family protect the family, the statement is perfectly correct.
     
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    Still need a scan of the page or an idea of which book stores carry that publication.
     
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    I've seen The Economist at both Barnes & Noble and Borders, as well as at the PX. Your local library might very well have it as well, and they'd probably have back issues. If you're near a university, their library would almost certainly have it.
     
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    Oleg -- My public library has the magazine. Headed there now with camera in hand.
     
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    just got my copy in the mail today. found it. will scan in b&W (don't have a color scanner).
     
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    here's a scan
    warning - big! 205 kB
     

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    Got it

    OK, here's the technical info on the issue in question.

    The issue is the October 9th-15th 2004 issue (as shown on the cover; the table of Contents also identifies it as Volume 373 Number 8396).

    In the magazine is a special section titled "US Election 2004" with page numbers independent of the rest of the magazine. Oleg's picture is used on page 29 of the special section (NOT page 29 of the main magazine body).

    Oleg's picture is part of a small montage across the top of pages 28-29, which contain an artle titled "The politics of values." Interestingly enough, guns/2nd Amendment are not mentioned anywhere in the article.

    Oleg's picture is not in original form. Rather, the picture has been cropped somewhat, with the top of the gun holder's head cut off, and the lower picture omitted (i.e., the part of Oleg's picture with the closeup is gone). In addition, the picture is two-color, black and orange (with the peoples' bodies black, and orange where the background and lighter colors would be). The text is intact. There is a pattern of stars resembling those of the U.S. flag in a vertical position that are overlaying about 1/3 of the picture.

    And now here's the part Oleg has been waiting for. As far as I can tell, there is no attribution to Oleg or anything that identifies the origin of the picture anywhere in the magazine--not on the page with the picture, not in the early pages (ToC, etc.) and not in the ending pages.

    Oleg, I might be able to get it scanned in a couple of days if you need. My offer to mail you a copy of the whole mag still stands.

    I picked up my copy at a nearby Chapter 11 bookstore. Barnes & UnNoble and Borders also usually carry the magazine. I imagine that Books-a-Million also does.
     
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