A little praise for the Colt Cobra/Agent

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The S&W J Frames get a lot of praise around here and rightfully so. Witness the 642 Club, etc. BUT, let us not forget that in the early days when S&W and Colt fought toe-to-toe for law enforcement dollars and civilian dollars in the compact, lightweight hideout gun market, Colt made some worthy contenders also.

Today I acquired one of those "other" hideout guns, A Colt Agent of 1972 vintage wit a factory original hammer shroud, box and instruction manual. The story I was told by the shopkeeper who sold the gun to me and who is a personal friend, is that the gun was owned by a small elderly gentleman from Georgia who carried it for quite some time. The wear patterns on the left sideplate, topstrap, backstrap and frontstrap bear that out. The tape wrapped around the lower part of the factory original grip panels also indicates that the gun was a personal companion. The face of the cylinder had no rings from firing and the bluing in that area was pristine. The gun showed no turn line and no real evidence of firing at all, but the wear on frame and cylinder bring the finish down to about 80-85 percent.

I weighed the old warhorse and found it came it at 15.5ozs with the shroud in place. Loaded with 158-gr lhp, the weight increased to 18.2ozs.

I fired about 35 shots through it tonight and the gun did not disappoint. Recoil was snappy but not too bad, and the gun was accurate and shot to poi with bullets in the 150+ weight range. It pockets very nicely and locks up very tightly as do all Colts that do not have worn ratchets.

I am so proud to have this little piece of history and I am doing to let this little gun continue on with its normal lifestyle as a carry piece. I've got a Tyler T Grip on order as my larger hands need it. When it arrives, this gun will be loaded with standard pressure ammo and will being its new life in my jacket pocket! I love it!

I am a S&W fan and have a number of fine K frames and N frames that I will not part with. I also once owned a model 36 J frame that was quite a performer also. But honestly, I don't see where the J frames have anything on the Colt Agent and Cobra guns, and the Colts provide "6 For Sure."
 
My first centerfire handgun was one of the Parkerized Colt Agents from about '82. That gun still sits in my safe. Great little gun. the gun isn't pretty on the outside but the trigger pull is just wonderful. I also have a Tyler grip adapter on it. I used to feed it the Federal 125gr Nyclad lead HPs. I think I still have a speed loader or two with that load in storage.
 
MikeC, yes these are great working guns. I am expecting to receive my Tyler T Grip any day now, and I received an email that my Mika holster will ship on Monday so that is good news also.
Tell me, does the T Grip force the grip to sit in the palm of your hand by placing the gun high in your grasp? That is the effect I am hoping for as that will give me more control of the gun and keep the back of the hammer shroud from pounding the web between my index finger and thumb.
As for ammo, I think I am going to work up a moderate standard pressure load with a swc bullet and carry that in the gun. I have a good collection of 38-caliber woulds in roundnose, swc, swchp, wadcutter and truncated cone styles. I am thinking a 155-grain H&G SWCGC bullet over about 3grs bullseye or green dot or red dot will do just fine.
 
lawboy, I hate to admit it but I haven't shot the Agent in a bit. When I shoot a wheelgun it is my GP100, I don't have to worry about an alloy frame that way.

After I got the gun I tried several different grips, nothing felt right. Then the dealer suggested the Tyler and I put in on and that might have been '83 or '84 and other then for cleaning it has been on the gun.

I have to look for a steel frame 4" .38 for fun shooting.
 
Oh, I hear you on not shooting the alloy guns a lot. My plan with this one it to work up a good load, and not shoot it much at all after that. It will be carried A LOT and shot very little. As you say, I have other, stronger guns for that! Still, as a hideout gun, the Colt D frames are right up there with the best of them.
 
In this era of increased right-to-carry laws being passed, it seems to me that Colt could peddle a lot of revolvers if they would reintroduce their fine "D" frame line-up. I'm of the opinion that the Cobra/Agent models make the best revolver configuration (in terms of the necessary compromises involved in terms of power, capacity, weight, bulk, accuracy and reliability) for use as a primary pocket and/or backup concealed carry piece. I switched from a "J" frame Smith Airweight for my pocket/jacket carry to a Cobra because I much prefer the Colt trigger pull and who wouldn't mind having an extra round of .38 Special on board in the event of a gunfight?
 
I upgraded from a J frame to the Det. Special and will never go back. I think the "D" frame is just about perfect as a .38 platform, though the grip frame is too thin for most modern hands at least with factory stocks on.
 
lawboy, congrats on discovering the Colt D frame!!!

I'm another big fan of the Colt D frame. My collection currently includes two Detective Specials and two alloy frame Cobras. Both Cobras get carried on a regular basis - pocket and ankle. I love 'em!

I suggest you take a look at the D frame boot grips from Jim Badger. www.badgercustomgrips.com. They are designed to fill the area behind the trigger guard like the Tyler adapter. They do a great job of filling your hand and distributing recoil.
 
I'm another big fan of the Cobra. The only gun that I carry concealed (about 3 times each year, LFOD) is a nickel 2" Cobra with factory stocks.
 
My dads go to gun is his Agent, first generation with thin barrel and short grip frame. Gun shows a great deal of carry wear, anodizing is mostly gone but it is still tight as a drum. He always practiced with wadcutters and was known to carry it with them from time to time. The gun is a very accurate and people have always commented that a snubby isn't supposed to be so. Great guns, I wish they still made them. Bill
 
I'm on my 3rd Agent, 2nd Cobra and still have the 1972 Detective Special I bought new. I wore the first 2 Agents (74 and 79) and the first Cobra (69)out shooting lots of 110 grain +p+ at gubbamint expense !
The DS was spared because it was too heavy for me (but I love it!)and has lived a leisurely life! My replacement Cobra is a cherry large grip frame one from the late 50's , just like the one that shot Lee Harvey, it is a safe queen.
My latest Parked Agent is on my Calif. CCW and has Tyler T grips and a nice 7 pound DA. It is scary accurate and I shoot a few Remington 158LSWCHPs in it about 3 times a year. I really don't need to o much practice with one anymore, I carry it in a Myka.
 
yup-parkerized lightweight agent is the . . . . .

snubby of choice for me. Carries really well - 6 shots and it shoots where it looks - what's not to like?
 
Hello~! Another COLT D-frame luver checking in. :D

My small collection of Colt D-frames consist of 2x 1966 factory original,
2" barrel Detective Specials; both would grade out at very solid 95 per
centers, according to NRA standards. Also, I have a pristine 1971 factory
nickel 2" barrel Detective Special that has only been test fired six times;
or one cylinder full. It would grade out at 98%+, cuz its without the box
and docs. Continuing, add to the Detective Specials one late 1972 (or
very early 1973) highly polished, factory blued Colt Agent without the
shroud; and with the enclosed ejector rod. It would most likely grade
out as a 97 per center.

I do not carry, or shoot these little gems; but rather collect 'em~!
Reason? 1947 was my birth year, so the 2nd series Colt's hold a special
meaning for me.

FootNote: make note that all of the Detective Specials are 2nd series
models; meaning that they were manufactuered between 1947-1972.
 
and yet another Colt lover checking in.... I have several variations on the D-frame pistol.
I have a NIB nickle Cobra, and NIB Nickel Viper, a 4" Blued .22LR Diamondback and a 4" nickel .38 Diamondback, and a Magnum Carry .357 magnum
 
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Colt D frames

I sort of enjoy Colt D frames as well, but only have 8 of them:
1. Colt Agent .38 Spl 2 inch 2nd generation 2" - 95+% with box/documents - might never have been fired (there were still six Norma wadcutters in the box along with the gun. It was puchased at the old Detroit Hudson's store, it was orginally registered by the Detroit PD in 1967 and owned by a female school principle (according to the Saftey Inspection Card). I thought this had some interesting history behind it as this was during the period of the race riots.
2. Colt Agent .38 Spl later 3rd generation parkarized model 2"
3. Colt Cobra .22 LR 3" barrel - 95% condition but no box/papers
4. Colt DS-II .38 Spl 2" stainless
5. Colt DS-II .38 Spl 3" stainless
6. Colt Police Postive MKV - blued 4" .38 Spl
7. Colt SF-VI .38 Spl 2" stainless
8. Colt SF-VI .38 Spl 4" stainless
 
I really enjoy reading the posts from folks that appreciate the Colt "snubbies". I love them as well. My Cobra has the firing pin on the hammer, it's loaded with Winchester Silver Tips and when I pull that hammer back, I know with 100% certainty that it is going to fire (and yes, six rounds if need be).

My Cobra has the factory grips and fits well in my hand. It is light weight and I think the over-all size is "just right".

On top of everything else, this gun will last my lifetime and beyond, they're just made that well.
 
"I really enjoy reading the posts from folks that appreciate the Colt "snubbies"."

Yes BUT this thread has gotten 250 hits in the same length of time the 'RG' thread got 1200!:rolleyes:

Makes me think about a Democrat women president for some weird reason:p

Just a good natured , amused observation.;)
 
Gotta agree with you Lawboy. I've got a Cobra made in '51 that shoots so well I'm always impressed. They're great weapons.
 
My first firearm (purchased in 2005) was an NIB third issue Colt Detective Special. I wanted something to carry, so I spent months holding, trying, and shooting various firearms, and I thought the DS was the best of them all. Now I have another DS, a PP Mk. IV, and a PP Mk. V. Need a Diamondback in .22lr next!

I wasn't as into the Cobra/Agent/Viper because I wanted the more durable Colt D-frame--something I could shoot and carry regularly for the remainder of my life (purchased the DS at age 22). I also find the DS amazingly light for steel. All that said, I'll have to own at least one alloy D-frame!
 
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I'm an old fart..

The first revolver I wanted was a used nickle Cobra in Dublin, Ga. in 1966.. It was $65.00... I didn't have $65.00 at the time. (college student).

In the ensuing years I've had a pretty good selection of pistols/revolvers come and go, but my favorite revolver is still an old 1961 Cobra... (middle in photo).

J.Pomeroy
 
I am in love with the D framed colts. I own four of them and I prefer the unshrouded models.
1956 Colt Agent ( Shooter )
1966 Colt Cobra ( Safe Queen Mint)
1967 Colt Cobra ( My carry Cobra )
1980's Colt Det Special. (Mint condition , wish it was pre 72 though)

I carry the 67 Colt Cobra all the time. Use Federal Nyclads 125 Standard velocity HP's and my own 158SWCHP,s from Speer. I open the hollow point up with a punch, pushed by 4.5 grain of Unique. Penetrates very well and peels back the hollow point nicely and it's standard pressure.
The best part of these Colts is they are SIX shots not five, NO MIM parts, NO Locks, and a better front sight than on the S&W J frames. Tyler grip adapter , two D frame speed loaders is all you need.
 
I love my Cobra and it is my everyday carry gun. I bought it back in may and set a record for the shortest time in the case - The guy putting it on consignment hadn't left yet! I keep mine loaded with Buffalo Bore's standard pressure 158gr SWC-HP. I love the grips I have on it now.

I'd love to find a nice Police Positive Special as a companion piece.

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I've never found a Colt I didn't want.
 
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