What I am saying is, even if Mr. Joe Public cares nothing for gun rights, try to win his vote under the guise of voting for a pro-life politician? Even if a person cares little for the abortion debate, the abortion issue may just be the angle that we can use to get people to vote for pro-gun politicians.
What do you guys think?
If you look at the data, the groups that are pro-life are most usually pro-gun.
I think you have a good idea though, if you can convince someone to support pro-gun candidates due to the right-to-life issues, the effect is the same.
If we piggyback with other issues and those issues lose, we lose as well.
This isn't quite piggybacking other issues. Suppose Candidate A is pro-gun, and candidate B is anti-gun. Mr. Voter thinks he's going to vote for candidate B. He owns a 30-30, and candidate B "hunts, and would't ban those". "Well, you see mr. voter, candidate A is also pro-life, (or anti-tax, or pro-America, or other important issue). "He is? Well, he won my vote"
If candidate A wins, what matters is we have a pro-gun politician, who will vote against gun bans, even if he was put in office because he was pro-life (Or anti-tax, or other important issue)
We have the Second Amendment which is pretty clear and defined by the founders of the nation. IMHO any politician that does not support the 2nd is Un-American or really misinformed.
Then we should oppose those candidates, even if it takes other issues to do so.
Rather than jumping in with others we need to forget about other issues and get everyone on Board.
For advancing an ideal, maybe. For advancing a political candidate who supports that ideal, no.
There are Hardcore Libs that are Pro Gun and there are Hardcore Conservatives that are antis.
That's actually what he was addressing. If you can convince those few anti-gun conservatives that other issues, like the right to life, matter most, they will vote for pro-gun candidates. Similiarly (spelling?) if you convince the pro-gun liberals that the second amendment matters most, they will vote for pro-gun candidates.
Also there are many groups such as the Pink Pistols that probably wouldn't be welcome by the mainstream Conservative Right that do alot for the Second Amendment.
We aren't voting for "pink pistols for senator". What he's talking about is getting support for pro-gun candidates via other issues.
We need to get together under the Cause of Gun Rights rather than fragment over other differences.
This isn't about us though. It's about the non-gun voters who can still be convinced to vote for pro-gun candidates for various idealogical reasons.
This is what I've been trying to do with the Color of the Second Amendment and the whole wristband idea. We need to rally together and be identified instead of being manipulated and fragmented by groups that don't really have the 2nd's best interest at heart and only use Guns as a way to get votes.There are many Politicians etc. that throw Guns out there as a way to get our vote but don't do a thing about it.
58 senators recently voted for the Thune amendment. Most of them were put in office for a lot of reasons other than gun rights. If we can support these candidates, we can gain a lot of ground.
We need serious organization for serious change.
You can't just give up on politics though. No organization, not even the NRA, has a congressional vote.
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