A Revolver and a Mock Trial....

[jderrick]

Many thanks to everyone for so many responses that go a long way to confirm some of the things I'd been thinking. BTW, I haven't been given any info about the gun except that it was a .38 revolver....

I'd been wondering if maybe issues regrading the weapon could be used to poke holes in the other side's story (he says it was his weapon in for maintenance -- was it maybe a fenced gun his buddy slipped him and then they needed some quick excuse? hmmm?).

I contacted my prof to see if I'm just thinking too hard (some of ya'll noted that the purpose of this exercise is more to argue the facts we've been given, not prove why those facts are wrong), and his comment was that such attention to detail would serve me well in the future, but on this case, which I'm doing prosecution for, just go with what we've been given, faulty as it may be....

Thanks!

 

[larry_minn]

In one part of the hypothetical case, a discharged (presumably honorably) Marine (I was going to say “ex-Marine,” but I’ve been told there is no such beast) picks up a .38 revolver at the local gun shop where he says he had his gun cleaned and some maintenance done on the “safety catch” for $6.50 (a short while later, a .38 is used to murder his estranged ex-wife… hmmmm).

I’ve got a couple questions – do folks typically pay to get their guns cleaned? I always just done it myself. Also, I’ve fired a few revolvers, but am not recalling any “safety catches.” And if he was getting it cleaned and worked on, is $6.50 unrealistically inexpensive



Does ANY of that matter as far as court? Criminal Law and Procedure was decades ago for me but it wouldn't have been important from (limited info).
There (should) be some proof he picked up a gun of same caliber used to kill his wife (proves he MAY have had a weapon that (MIGHT) be murder weapon.
How much it cost/what work was done is not material. None of thes matters UNLESS the Marine tries to say the "gun went off" because they messed it up. Don't get hung up on little stuff.

BTW I did have a "Perry Mason" moment. Thing is I was being paid by the person who was sueing. So I helped a case that (IMO) had no basis.
It basicly delt with their (position) that the outside dual skidded while the inside dual turned. (on the driving axles on semi) Which is NOT possible. (bolted together)

 

[csmkersh]

The Webley-Fosbery Automatic revolver was one of several older revolvers with a manual safety. Modern revolvers can have a manual safety using the Murabito Satefy conversion.

Attended a mock trail competition and lost all faith in the judicial system. In the mornig, the team argued the case for the defense. In the afternoon they argued the same case with the same evidence as the prosecution. Law and justice isn't taught; only winning.

Do the mods lock for lawyer bashing like they do for so-called cop bashing?
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[bogie]

Nope - some cops are salvageable...

Best gun cleaning bargain is the cleaning tent at Knob Creek - they strip 'em down, ultrasonic solvent 'em, oil 'em up, and put 'em back together. Go to Coles, buy your favorite toy, take it down the row, hand it over, and come back a little later and pick it up a couple of pounds lighter.

 

[Tribal]

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[BruceRDucer]

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no Marine, active or discharged would NOT clean his own weapon.---Sniper

That's exactly what I'm thinking too.

However, only a Marine would find the Safety on a Revolver. ((((ducks)))))

They say you can give a Marine 2 pounds of Hamburger, and he'll make you a Safety.