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I'm looking for suggestions.
I would like to get a rifle that shoots .38/.357 mag such as the Rossi/Puma.

And I would like a revolver that can shoot 9mm/.38/.357 mag via a cylinder change (possibly .380 too??). Durability of gun parts (moon clips etc) for 9mm is very important. Is a cylinder change the best answer for this issue?

Suggestions please.

Thanks in advance.
 
"Marlin lever action and a Ruger BlackHawk."

+1 - I've got these guns and they are hard to beat. My 6.5" Blackhawk convertable is built like a tank and the Marlin is my favorite lever action.

I have several other 9mm revolvers, but this is the only one that will shoot both 9mm & 38/357.

A Ruger Police Carbine in 9mm would'nt be a bad addition either...
 
Look into the 9mm aspect carefully. The only gun I know of that handles the .38/.357 and 9mm that is one of the Ruger single action guns from their convertable line. Being single action and loaded through the side gate there's obviously no way to use moon clips in a manner that gives them any advantage. Also the barrel bore size is a compromise to make this work. Frankly I'd just skip on the 9mm issue since it really gains you nothing. Concentrate on .38Spl and .357Mag and get into reloading so you can tailor a load that suits you and what you're doing with it.

It's too bad there's not a hand ejector style 9mm revolver that takes moonclips. I find myself salivating at the thought quite often. S&W made a 9mm revolver that used spring pins to allow loading and snap out into the rim channel. But these seem to be rare, or at least they seldom show up for sale, and I understand that the wires were somewhat fragile.

Shooting .38spl from my Puma lever is pretty mild. Just a touch more presence than a .22 rifle. With +P or Magnumbs it comes alive but is still pretty mild. Even a .357 is far, far more mild out of the Puma than a .30-30 out of my Win 94. I'm shooting mine in CAS events and I have S&W's in .357 so I stuck with on caliber. But if I was just looking at a combo like this for hunting or something other than target shooting events I think I'd go with the Puma or Marlin in .44Mag along with a S&W 29 or 629 and load my own .44Mag rounds to something more like .44Spl+P for the revolver. That would provide a healthy bullet energy but not beat the snot out of my hand. I don't mind a round or two of factory .44Mag from a 629 but by the time I'm half way through the cylinder I've had enough. OK, so I'm a wuss but if my hand is hurting it's hard to concentrate on aiming.
 
Thanks for the replies.
Ive sold off my Colt 45acp Govt (gasp!) and added another 9mm.

I'm considering revamping some of my holdings.

Im considering selling off my Marlin 30-30 and getting a Marlin or other 38/357mag lever action to replace it.

At the same time I would want to get a revolver that can shoot 9mm/38/357mag.

Most of the quantity of ammo I store is 9mm for my BHP and M&P 9c and it would be nice to be able to use the ammo in a revolver if needed. The 38/357mag revolver/rifle combo is self explanatory.

Since I dont really hunt anymore, getting the rifle and pistol chambered as mentioned, I feel I will have more flexibility.

With out getting into a SHTF scenario, it seems like I would have the highest chance of finding ammo and being able to shoot it out of something I have. (I have 22lr and .223rifles too and will be getting a .22lr pistol as well)

Can someone edgemicaate me on the 9mm/38/357 Blackhawk. What does it take to shoot all three calibers (new cylinders? moon clips?) and is the 9mm function durable? Or are there "consumables"?
 
I have a Ruger Blackhawk convertible, bought it to compliment my Hi-Point 995 carbine. It comes with two cylinders, a .357/.38 and a 9mm luger. I find accuracy with 9mm to not be as good at all, but I can only shoot t at 25yds, so that may not be the best range to yield any good results. I am sure the gun prefers heavier bullets as well.
 
Thanks for the replies everyone.

Does the 9mm cylinder hold the round by head spacing or is it a moon clip type thing?

It doesnt say on the Ruber site and I couldnt find a decent pic to tell.
 
I think with the Ruger it headspaces on the rim. In a double action revolver this would be a drawback because you would have to pop out the empties by hand with something other than is what is already integrated into the gun since the star ejector cannot engage the rimless cases. With a single action like the Blackhawk, the ejector rod is already in place to eject the empites just as if you were ejecting rimmed cases.
 
earlthegoat2 said:
I think with the Ruger it headspaces on the rim. In a double action revolver this would be a drawback because you would have to pop out the empties by hand with something other than is what is already integrated into the gun since the star ejector cannot engage the rimless cases. With a single action like the Blackhawk, the ejector rod is already in place to eject the empites just as if you were ejecting rimmed cases.
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Thanks again everyone.

Now that you said that earlthegoat, I seem to remember seeing a 9mm revolver pic that had a star ejector.

Did I imagine this... is it NOT a caliber combo gun... is NOT still availible?
 
Im considering selling off my Marlin 30-30 and getting a Marlin or other 38/357mag lever action to replace it.

At the same time I would want to get a revolver that can shoot 9mm/38/357mag.
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I'd keep the marlin add one in .357 and get the Blackhawk convertible. Keeping the arsenal in the 30 cal family makes sense.
 
Thanks again everyone.

Now that you said that earlthegoat, I seem to remember seeing a 9mm revolver pic that had a star ejector.

Did I imagine this... is it NOT a caliber combo gun... is NOT still availible?
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No you didn't imagine it. S&W has had 9mm hand ejector revolvers but do not have one currently. I believe Ruger had one at one time too. The S&W ejector star uses little sprung tabs to hook under the rim groove. It is not set up for moon clips at all. It could be machined to allow it but this would be expensive and ruin what is a fairly rare gun. With some careful shopping you can find one used. BUT they are NOT compatible with .38 or .357Mag. Strictly 9mm only.

Taurus makes the model 905 stubby length 9mm revolver. It uses a moonclip variation they call a stellar clip. But again it is 9mm only, no .357 or .38 capability at all.

The Ruger Convertable is a single action revolver. As I mentioned above this means that it loads through the typical one round at a time side gate so again moon clips are not an option and would make zero sense in such a gun. And 50Cal's reply about the lack of accuracy with 9mm rounds is not the first reference to this issue with the Convertable.

So why the emphasis on 9mm? The lever gun won't shoot them and I thought the idea was to center your ammo supply on this one caliber. I say drop your requirement for 9mm and go for a nice .357Mag double action revolver along with a lever rifle to mate with it. You'll have a much wider choice of excellent options once this 9mm issue is forgotten.
 
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