A Tokarev & Wolff Spring ????

[B&C_C]

I have a 53 TT Tokarev and a M57 Yugo, did the web searches on spring kits and recommendations. I found post of owners saying they had 3 different recoil spring weights from wolff (old post-different site) or saying they had specific spring weights. Both models mentioned.
Couldn't find them listed on Wolff's web site, so I called them. The woman that answered my call says they've only offered the "Standard" factory weight springs for the tt33 and that they've never had a M57 there to tear down to make the copies. SO? did someone use their "smith kits" or Blitz pack & new what would fit? She didn't know? Or some body "embellished" a post?
I sure would like to up date my Toks (especially the M57)& hopefully make it easier to find my brass. Any help would be greatly appreciated.

 

[Clark]

http://www.gunsprings.com/index.cfm?page=items&cID=1&mID=68

My notes:
Wolff Tokarev right .391x.039x6"

Wolff #14 right .390x.042"
Wolff #14 right .358x.046"
Wolff #14 right .315x.040" 0/9#
Wolff #14 right .277x.034" 3/13.5#
Wolff #14 right .266x.031" 4.2/11#
Wolff #14 right .266x.031" 6.5/14.7#
Wolff #14 right .239x.029" 2/10#
Wolff #14 right .224x.027"

 

[B&C_C]

Thanks Clark, maybe you better educate me a little more -
Like - Spring "Right"?
And did you get these from one of there 'smith kits? OR are these from a different pistol kit?

 

[Clark]

Right is right hand twist.
Left is left hand twist.

Wolff will not tell me the coil size and the wire size of their springs. I have to buy them and measure them.

Contrast that with my father who could get any spring prototype for free and quickly, 4140 closed and ground.

I keep trying to play gun engineer, but society has made me a consumer.

I bought the Wolff gunsmith pak #14 and that is what is in the list.

Here is an info dump of the little I know

Recoil springs:
Below I list the source of the spring, right handed or left handed
twist, the coil diameter, the wire diameter, the spring's free length,
the force in pounds [#] to open the action of the Patriot with that
spring installed alone, and the force to pull the slide all the way
back.

1)Kel-Tek P40 inner: Right twist .250x.025x3.3" 2/5.9#
2)Kel-Tek P40 outer: Left twist .337x.034x3.6" 4.5/13#
3) Wolff #14 right .252x.031x cut 3.3/11.9#
4) Wolff #14 right .434x.045x cut 5/15.4#
5) Numerich assortment left 0/3.5#
Kel-Tek P11 outer left .329x.034x3"
Kel-Tek P11 inner right .243x.027x 2.5"
Kel-Tek P32 outer right .243x.025x2.5"
Kel-Tek P32 inner left .177x .020x2.1"
Kel-Tec P-3AT outer right .253 x .025 x 3.1
Kel-Tec P-3AT inner left .180 x .019 x 2.65
Wolff M43 24# right .350x.044x3.5"
Wolff Colt Comm 27# right .444x.049x4.7"
Wolff Glock19 24# outer right .406x.046x3.9"
Wolff Glock19 24# inner right .260x.027x2.6"
Wolff Tokarev right .391x.039x6"
Wolff CZ52 16.5# right .592x.050x5.5"
Wolff #14 right .390x.042"
Wolff #14 right .358x.046"
Wolff #14 right .315x.040" 0/9#
Wolff #14 right .277x.034" 3/13.5#
Wolff #14 right .266x.031" 4.2/11#
Wolff #14 right .266x.031" 6.5/14.7#
Wolff #14 right .239x.029" 2/10#
Wolff #14 right .224x.027"
Berretta 1934 right .294x.033"
Glock stock .420x.024"
Stock Patriot right .490x.046" 7.7/ 15.9#



This pic is of a Colt 1911, but the same thing applies to a Tokarev. There is extra recoil absorbing energy put into cocking the hammer, as well as friction.