a truly hot .25acp round?

[JERRY]

yeah i know i know.......spare me.



i remember there was a round called PSP,PPD, or PPS or something like that which was an all copper bullet that was driven to substantially higher velicities for the caliber yet stayed within SAAMI pressures....like a cor-bon DPX round does....however these rounds were made in .25acp and .32acp.....they were an all copper hollow point.

anyone know if these are still around for the mouse guns?

 

[Sox]

Jerry, yeah I remember these things from back in the late 80's. I shot several in my little Beretta 950 until I fired one and the gun jammed. On inspection, I found the base of the bullet had shot through and left the sidewalls of the bullet stuck in my chamber. I simply took an oversized screw that bit into the sidewalls of the bullet and extracted from my chamber. Lesson- I never shot that crap again, and don't mess with novelty ammo for saving my life.

 

[JERRY]

wow, it seems to be the first generation "DPX" loading....an all copper light weight bullet at high velocity.....

wonder why that issue you had occure doesnt do so with cor-bons DPX which is the same concept..?

 

[bestseller92]

I believe Glaser made .25s at one point; I remember seeing a Mas Ayoob article on them in "AH". Of course, memory fades, and it might've been some other so called "hi perf" round for the .25.

But as Mas said in the article, if anyone is considering ditching their .38 in favor of a hot loaded .25, they should run, not walk, to their nearest mental health facility.

 

[denfoote]

I think the .25acp has reached the peak of it's developmental maturity and has been found wanting.

As a cartridge, it came from a kinder, gentler era where there no meth heads, gangpunks, or drive-bys. It was alright for it's day, but should now be allowed to retire and fade into the mists of time.

 

[chief]

.250 magnum

Don't accuse me of hallucinations, but at one time there was a semi-auto chambered for a round called the .250 magnum or something similar. I believe the company chambering the round was american derringer. I placed an order and a year later was still waiting. Never saw an actual gun or round of ammo but wanted one for the novelty. Around this time the Corbin Swaging folks were offering a set of dies that would let you form jacketed bullets with primer cups of expended shotgun shell primers, they used soft lead cores and a hollow point nose profile. I hear that magsafe makes a real screamer and Cor-Bon is still producing .25 glasers.

 

[Geister]

The .25 ACP has to be the most worthless popular cartridge ever developed. Marginal stopping power and expensive to shoot.

Anything you can kill with a .25 ACP you can kill with a .22 LR.

 

[Sox]

I want to see a 35gr FMJ with some oomph!

 

[skeeter1]

Winchester does make a (claimed) expanding 45gr hollow point in .25ACP, but they're dreadfully expensive.

http://www.cheaperthandirt.com/65234-7889-77.html

You could shoot .38Spls for half the cost, or CCI .22 Stingers for 1/6th price. .25s are interesting novelties, but not very practical.

 

[Geronimo45]

As a cartridge, it came from a kinder, gentler era where there no meth heads, gangpunks, or drive-bys.

I don't know if that's the case. The era it came from had Dillingers, Capones, drive-bys with SMGs... people may've been more respectable on average, but the criminal element was armed and extremely dangerous - possibly more dangerous than it is today.

The .25 was simply the smallest repeating handgun package that was available then, IIRC. Lightweight, tiny - you could drop it in any pocket and not mind the weight. It was, I think, a sort of 'always gun' - light enough to not be troublesome, with substantially more stopping power than harsh language alone. A good gun for the 'average citizen' who had no involvement in criminal activity/dangerous occupations.

The .25 was the strength of a 22lr of the time, I believe, with newer powder and a case size closer to that of the .22 short. Out of short pistol barrels, the .25 ought to be equal to normally-loaded .22LR. With the newer, high-velocity .22s, that may not be true.

I heard of a .25 ACP round with a brass bullet, IIRC... but it's now classified as 'armor piercing'. Better penetration than the normal stuff, apparently.