A very strong Martini!

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Here's my newest old rifle. She's 134 years old this year. Looks pretty good for her age, don't you think?

This is a Martini-Henry rifle manufactured as a Mk I rifle at RSAF Enfield in 1873 and later upgraded to Mk II configuratin. The rifle eventually found it's way into Nepalese service. It's one of the guns rescued and imported by IMA/Atlanta Cutlery after they bought out the contents of the Royal Nepalese Armory a few years ago.

I've known about these guns since they started coming into the country but I've resisted buying one until now. I did pick up a M-H Mk III converted to .303 Brit from an estate sale a year or so ago and thought that would satisfy my "thirst for a martini." (I posted about that rifle earlier here if anyone is interested and missed it the first time)

One of the reasons I've always avoided them was because I don't reload and no one made any good .577/450 ammo. When I was at the SHOT show this year I mentioned this to to the guy at IMA and he introduced me to the owner of the Ten-X custom ammo manufacturing company.

Ten-X is one of the companies now selling commercially loaded .577/450 ammo. (The other company is Buffalo Arms. Both companies use brass from the same manufacturer). The Ten-X ammo uses a blackpowder substitute loaded to safe levels for these old guns and uses a lead bullet with a hollow base designed to expand and fill the rifling to maximize the accuracy potentional.

So, I'm standing there in the IMA booth, looking at the M-H rifles they have on display, while "Zulu" plays on the TV in the background. I was trying to decide whether I should buy one or not when I hear the following dialouge:

"They've pulled back! It's a miracle."
"If it was a miracle, then it was a short chambered, boxer primed .577 caliber miracle, Sir."

That was it. I pulled out my credit card and made the purchase. In addition to the rifle I also sprung for the bayonet and scabbard and the
M-H combo tool. I then went to the Ten-X booth next door and ordered 40 rounds of ammo. (At $5 a round, that's all I could afford! They'll reload the brass for me for half price though)

Anyway, here's the pics. Sorry for the quality, but the lighting sucked and these were the best I could indoors with my crappy digicam. I'll take some better shots outdoors when I take this to the range.


This is a rifle! No "short rifle" or carbine here. When I put the bayonet on, I couldn't get far enough back in the hallway to get the whole thing in the frame!

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Here's the rifle and bayonet. There is some rust on the bayonet and the scabbard has split along one side. I'm going to check with IMA, but I bet there all pretty much in the same shape. I'm just glad the rifle was in better shape.

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The rifle and the ammo. With what's in the picture, plus the bayonet and combo tool, I could have bought a Bushy AR.
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Here's a couple close ups of the markings. The "II" is the model number. The hand stamped "2" indicates that this rifle was withdrawn from first line service and placed in second line (reserve) service at some point.

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Here's the hungry maw of the beast. Much larger than her .303 sibling. "Feed me, Seymour!"
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And here's her prefered food. Just wish I could afford to keep her better fed.

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I paid extra for the "hand select" of the best of the next 50 to be shipped. I'm glad I did because I think it made a difference. This rifle is pretty nice! The finish has mostly gone to patina, but it is nearly 95% and the wood is solid. Overall, I'd say this gun is in better shape than my other M-H in .303.

It was interesting to put the two guns side by side. The Mk II in .577/450 is longer and heavier then the Mk III in .303. I thought the conversion to .303 was a simple rebarrelling, but evidently they restocked the rifles and made other significant changes as well.
 
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Very nice! I really like the look of the Martini-Henry rifles.It's on my "to buy" list (a very long list :)).Too bad feeding them is so expensive....
 
$5 a pop?! Wow, you might just want to take up reloading and casting. It wouldn't take long at all to recoup the start up costs. You could probably get started for a few hundred bucks. (Which isn't many shots' worth in your case...)

I don't know a thing about black powder reloading, but I'm sure there are tons of folks in the blackpowder and reloading forums who can help you out.
 
Boy those are in really much nicer condition than I thought they would be. A M-H is on my "to-buy" list as well (I am a victim of the movie "Zulu") but I had moved it down on my lower priority section of the list.

Dang you...now it just moved up.
 
IIRC - the original design was by the American Peabody. Martini , a Swiss ,later changed the lock work.Adopted by British Army with rifling designed by Henry ,made at he Enfield arsenal !! So all those names -Peabody,Martini,Henry,Enfield have been used to describe it !
 
Boy those are in really much nicer condition than I thought they would be. A M-H is on my "to-buy" list as well (I am a victim of the movie "Zulu") but I had moved it down on my lower priority section of the list.

Dang you...now it just moved up.

I paid extra for the "hand pick best of 50" and I'm glad I did. This rifle is as nice as the nicest rifle they had on display at SHOT and nicer than some of the other examples they had there.

The specifics of the order were:

Martini Henry Mk II w/1870's dates
+ Hand Pick "For best overall condition, specifically mechanical condition."

I ordered through IMA.
 
This reminds me of one of the coolest custom rifles I've ever heard of. It was a "small action" Martini Henry that was rechambered to .220 Swift, equipped with an old Unertl 4X scope, and featured a loading lever that was recontoured to run flush with the hand grip ending with a nice extension past the grip cap. In the review the rifle was holding 1 MOA!

I will heartily endorse the handloading suggestion. For what you spent on ammo you could have a lead furnace, bullet mold (used), single stage press, reloading dies, and powder to load at a minimum 50 cases.
 
Here is my Martini-Henry Mk. II Rifle. Yes, it is from the "Nepal Cache". It is a very late production Mk.II 1888.

Made by Birmingham Small Arms and Metal Co. I have not fired this rifle yet, I just can't afford the .577"/.450" Cartridges yet, but I'm grateful to at least own the rifle. This was my "quitting smoking present" to myself, I put away $5 a day until I could afford to buy the rifle...LOL. The flag is the flag of Somerset County, the county my Dad's family is from in England.
Thank You
Mark

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So, I'm standing there in the IMA booth, looking at the M-H rifles they have on display, while "Zulu" plays on the TV in the background. I was trying to decide whether I should buy one or not when I hear the following dialouge:

"They've pulled back! It's a miracle."
"If it was a miracle, then it was a short chambered, boxer primed .577 caliber miracle, Sir."

That was it. I pulled out my credit card


this was the part of your post when a little of the pepsi i was drinking shot out of my nostrils onto my keyboard, effectively "lubricating" keys d-k and a small portion of the space bar.

now that its all cleaned up,,, beautiful little chunk of nostalgia you have there.

bryan
 
Gosh, what awful pictures.

Someone needs to learn how to use a camera. Who took these...Oh, never mind.....
 
God, I'm jealous. I watched Zulu again for the umpteenth time a couple of weeks ago. Ever since I've been dropping subtle hints to the wife about how much I'd like a M-H.

Now you just need to get about 19 other guys who also have Martini's so you could form two ranks and recreate this scene:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IWuaSww3JnA
 
Congrats! I get that longing myself from time to time, usually after watching "Zulu" or "The Man Who Would Be King" again or reading from my Rudyard Kipling anthologies.

FWIW, Mike Venturino mentioned his Martini in a column he wrote a while back entitled "Guns I'll Never Shoot Again".

Being of an even more "advanced" age than he, some of his remarks touching on the practical aspects of shooting them have acted to cool my ardor somewhat.

IIRC, reloading for the .577-.450 required not only expensive brass (although there's at least one other source for it now besides Bertram: Quality Cartridge) but getting another press that would accomodate the 1" dia. die set (also special order and quite expensive) required for the round.

Also IIRC, his load was intended to try and duplicate the original service-issue one and consisted of 95 gr. of Swiss 1 1/2 Fg BP under a 490 gr. cast bullet in QC cases with a CCI Magnum Rifle primer.

From the approx. 9# rifle, the recoil was apparently so hard on his aging shoulder that he couldn't raise his arm over his head that evening, even though he said he used an extra pad.

If I do end up succumbing, I believe that I'll be a good deal less "authentic" and feed The Elephant's Child with a much blander diet, as it were. Some of the fellows over in the Martini section at Surplus Rifles.com have worked up milder loads using IMR Trail Boss with various projectiles.

From the way my shoulder feels after just 10 rds. of 2 3/4" Mag. slugs through my 8+ # Rem. 870 these days, they'd likely be the only way I could do enough actual shooting to amortize the costs involved in getting there.
 
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