Absolutely unbelievable -- torture test

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A friend recently sent me a link to this thread on GlockTalk. I can't help but be astonished. It's long, but it has lots of pictures and movies.

http://www.glocktalk.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=462537

Your thoughts?

I know of other torture tests that have been done, but most of them are on Glocks. Can anyone post other torture test they know of? Hopefully we can come up with a good compilation of these things. If they're of other pistols, so much the better. :)

Wes
 
I rely on a Glock as my primary carry and home defense handgun. It's my novice opinion that they are the toughest most reliable handgun on the market and this testing reinforces that belief. My other guns wouldn't stand up to that torture!

That said, I read that the testing for the CZ P01 was incredibly tough. I used to have the link but it was really beat to heck and still performed -- but nothing like the testing this guy did to his Glock!

I LOVE GLOCKS
 
I wonder how many other pistols could endure such abuse and still function...

I had read somewhere that the Glock 21 was Glock's "problem" model. I have a 21 and was a bit concerned after reading this. The torture test in the link above puts to rest my concerns.

IMO, the only thing wrong with Glocks is - they're ugly! I'd rather have ugly that works than pretty that doesn't though.
 
I've read that thread at GT and saw it before that at ar15.com. On the one hand - it's somewhat random, unscientific, and in some undefinable way, sort of ridiculous. On the other hand - it's totally awesome, exceptionally entertaining, and will make you feel smart for owning a GLOCK. It may in fact be, on the whole, the best firearms-related thread ever, whether or not you approve of its method or conclusions.
 
Tamara did a torture test to a Springer 1911 that actually made me cringe.

I don't baby my guns but wow, I wouldn't treat 'em that bad on purpose either.
 
I really wish I could find the torture tests done on the BHP by the British. The closest I can find is the report done with an aluminum-framed Inglis prototype, in the R. Blake Stevens book "The Browning High Power Pistols." I know that there have been torture tests on BHPs, I just wish I could find them.

I'd also like to see a CZ-75 put through the wringer.

Wes
 
If you want to see a torture test...

...join me at the range. I'm in the process of shooting my Makarov without cleaning, with the occaisonal dunk in a bucket of water to cool it off, for going on 2400 rounds. I haven't had a malfunction yet, and it's starting to look like it's made out of soot.
I admire the Glock's durability, just with they would fix the darn grip angle, so I wouldn't have to re-learn how to shoot.
 
Do any of these "torture tests" include getting any sort of debris (dirt, mud, etc.) in the barrel? I would think that once you get this stuff in the barrel, all guns would have the same result in a torture test - KABOOM!
 
ABBOBERG:

You'd be surprised at what can become lodged inside of a barrel of a firearm that won't cause a catastrophic failure. Squib Rounds (rounds that fire but fail to exit the barrel) are part of HK's torture tests and they pass with a little bulging of the bbl, other firearms have either similar tests or accounts exist of the same type of occurrences.

It's definitely not a safe practice, but if a gun can fire through that, some mud or dirt isn't going to hurt much.
 
My thoughts are that, without a doubt, Glock has the most durable finish, hard to rust, and needs little lubrication.

Functioned good in some of the "dunking tests" of various "stuff", but also had many FTF's during several of the different tests. Of course due to all the "stuff" jamming the gun and mags, etc. No surprise. From the posts on the other forums I read, it seems the FTF's are glossed over and they are more impressed with it being shot or dropped out of a plane.

So, it's a tough gun with a tough finish that jams when too much 'stuff' is introduced into the action and/or mag.

Am I missing something, too tough on Glock, or just don't know how various other guns would do in the test?

Either way, a lot of gun for the money.
 
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When the XD came out, the reproduced the famed glock torture test and it passed with flying colors. I can't find the link now though.
 
45auto,I got the impression he was trying to make the glock fail to the point of requiring a "strip-n-clean" or a new part.
 
http://www.1911forum.com/forums/sea...d=540451&sortby=lastpost&sortorder=descending

Larry Vickers

Sand Test
Just had a chance to do a harsh sand test on few different handguns. This test was not scientific but was very enlightening.

Pistols tested were; HK USP Tactical
Customized 1911
rack grade GI 1911
Glock 21

Test consisted of placing each pistol loaded in a Bianchi GI field holster inside a plastic bag with approx 2 cups of fine/medium grit sand ( North Carolina type). Then the bag was shaken vigorously for 10 seconds while holding onto the pistol butt for safety. The pistol was then taken out and 3 mags were fired through the 1911 and 2 fully loaded mags were fired through the HK and Glock - roughly the same amount of ammo. The sand coverage was very good and uniformly covered the pistols. The pistols were loaded in the mode you would expect in a field environment - condition 3 for the 1911, loaded for the Glock and loaded in DA mode for the USP.A test was done dry and lubed with TW 25B. This test represented EXTREME sand conditions - not normal field use, even in sandy conditions.A brief rundown of the results follow;

1)Carrying your gun dry in this environment is a NO GO despite what some will say. All pistols performed worse dry than lubed.

2)All pistols required some manipulation in order to fire - none would function normally straight out of the holster.

3)Overall the HK USP performed the best - the performance of it dry was roughly the same as the customized 1911 but was definately the best lubed. Overall it performed well.

4)The custom 1911 was second - interestingly enough the trigger track was not a real problem - the sand that went in through the ejection port to the bottom lugs area caused the most problems. Once the sand shifted in this area the pistol functioned better.

5)The rack grade GI 1911 was a distant third - the custom 1911 had an 18 pound recoil spring and that helped with feeding greatly vs the rack grade gun. Swap out the recoil spring and it probably would have done better.

6)The shocker of the day - the Glock 21 FAILED terribly. The big problem was failure of the trigger to reset. Also at times the pistol would not fire due to sand in the trigger mechanism. The dry test could not even be completed with the Glock due to this.This surprised all of us as we expected the Glock to do quite well.

Moral of the story; The 1911, even in its customized mode, can get the job done if you set it up to succeed. Lube it right, carry it in the right holster and in the proper mode, and it won't let you down - just like it hasn't for nearly a 100 years.

The HK USP series are good guns - well designed and well made - for service pistols. The ergonomics hurt the pistol dramatically but for an out of the box service pistol/field gun, they get my endorsement.

The Glock 21 is a dog - always has been. It has the rep of being the worst gun Glock makes. I have a Glock 17 and 19 and like them for what they are - but don't get sucked into the Glock hype - they are not magical guns. Remember what your dad said when you were in 3rd grade; don't believe everything you read.

Hope you guys got something out of this - I did.

Larry Vickers
 
GlockTalk is a good place to find the "absolutely unbelievable."
 
People seem to either love them or hate them. I've been impressed with the reliability of the ones I've owned although I haven't subjected them to torture tests. I feel comfortable trusting my safety to the ones I own. If you don't like them don't use them. They aren't magic or failure-proof, nothing is. Tests can show anything the tester wants them to.
 
My thoughts are that, without a doubt, Glock has the most durable finish, hard to rust, and needs little lubrication.

Functioned good in some of the "dunking tests" of various "stuff", but also had many FTF's during several of the different tests. Of course due to all the "stuff" jamming the gun and mags, etc. No surprise. From the posts on the other forums I read, it seems the FTF's are glossed over and they are more impressed with it being shot or dropped out of a plane.

So, it's a tough gun with a tough finish that jams when too much 'stuff' is introduced into the action and/or mag.

Am I missing something, too tough on Glock, or just don't know how various other guns would do in the test?

My thoughts exactly.
The Glock is certainly not my tool of choice, but I admire them as robust pieces of machinery. However, they aren't the embodiment of "perfection" that they're hyped to be. They can jam just like anything else.

It is my theory that people are simply more willing to do torture tests on Glocks. IMHO, it has to do with the looks. I mean, it isn't going to be much uglier with scratches all over it, is it?

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Steve, thanks for that report. That's the kind of stuff we're looking for. ;)

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Wes. Good to see a post from ya. Long time no see.

Too true. How are ya, Rob? I'll send you a PM. :)

Wes
 
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