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accidentally tried to chamber a 9x18 in my bersa thunder

Discussion in 'Handguns: Autoloaders' started by harmon rabb, Jan 16, 2010.

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  1. harmon rabb

    harmon rabb Member

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    damn i'm an idiot. thought i'd carry my bersa today. had a full mag, locked the slide open, popped a 9x18 into the chamber, hit the slide release.

    now it's stuck. damn i'm an idiot. any ideas on how the heck i can get this out? i can't pull the slide back at all. completely jammed shut.

    yes, laugh away at how stupid i am :eek:

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  2. 1KPerDay

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    I'd try a dowel down the barrel and giving it a couple good whacks. Much as it would make me nervous to do with live ammo involved.

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  3. ATBackPackin

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    Maybe with the gun pointed in a safe direction try to loosen the slide with a rubber mallet, but I would do it outdoors with the gun pointed in a safe direction and make sure nothing is in front of or comes across the barrel.

    Other than that, take it to a gunsmith with head hung low and be willing to take a little humility.

    Best of luck.

    Shawn
     
  4. harmon rabb

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    i've decided i'm going to take the safe route and bring it to a local gunsmith. the guy said, over the phone, he could probably get it out pretty quickly.

    i'd rather pay a few bucks than risk an AD somehow (even though the hammer is nowhere near the round and the bersa has a magazine safety)
     
  5. Skillet

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    I would do that. But how in the world did you get some of that ammo in there in the first place?
     
  6. Fremmer

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    Oh, I'll bet Harmon got it in there just fine. Sort of like how easy it is for me to take stuff apart. Getting it back together is a whole different matter; and those extra parts still laying around after it's back together? Meh, they probably were not really necessary in the first place. :D

    Good luck, man, and let us know how it turns out. Stuff happens.
     
  7. EddieNFL

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    Can't get in any trouble that way. Looking at the pix, IF the primer were somehow ignited, it would fire out of battery. Might not be pretty.
     
  8. harmon rabb

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    opened slide, placed it in the chamber, hit the slide release :eek:
     
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    You do know you're not supposed to load a semi-auto pistol that way, right?
     
  10. MachIVshooter

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    When I've had stuck cases, I first tried putting the front of the slide against a workbench and sharply pushing against it. Usually either works, or the extractor slips the rim. In the latter case, I can now lock the slide and tap the stuck case/round out safely.

    If you don't wanna risk hurting the extractor:

    Put the gun in a vice, use a brass punch or somesuch to push in on the back of the extractor and then retract the slide. Lock it open, reposition the gun in the vise so that the slide can't close if the catch releases, then tap the round out with a dowel.
     
  11. crushbup

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    Depends on the pistol design.
     
  12. belus

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    I don't know a single extractor design that was made to take that type of loading... could you share which ones you were thinking of?
     
  13. Odd Job

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    Don't know if it is helpful, but the T/C R55 rifle is designed to be fired in single shot mode if the user loses his magazine. That's a .22 LR though.
     
  14. railroader

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    Actually the manual for my ruger p95 says it's ok to drop a round in the chamber and drop the slide. I was surprised. Mark

    From the manual:
    TO LOAD AND FIRE (WITHOUT MAGAZINE)
    In the event that the magazine is missing or for training purposes (where it is
    desirable that only one cartridge be loaded and fired at a time for safety), the pistol
    can be fired with the magazine removed. To do so, keep the pistol pointed in a
    safe direction, engage the safety (lever fully down, white dot and letter “S”
    exposed), grasp the slide, and retract it fully to the rear. Next, push the slide stop
    upward so that the slide remains to the rear. Insert a single cartridge directly and
    fully into the chamber. Taking care to keep the pistol pointed in a safe direction,
    depress the slide stop. This will cause the slide to move vigorously forward into
    the firing position. WARNING: The pistol is ready for instant use in the singleaction
    mode once the slide moves forward and the safety is disengaged.
     
  15. Beagle-zebub

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    Wasn't the Beretta 92FS designed to be able to be loaded through the ejection port in the event that the magazine was destroyed or lost? This was a US mil requirement, IIRC.
     
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    The LCP manual specifically states this is okay. I load mine this way. When I unload if I'm leaving the gun anywhere other than on my person, I remove the mag, eject the chambered round. Load, I lock the slide back, put the round back in the chamber, drop the slide, insert the magazine.
     
  17. atblis

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    Makarov perhaps?
    P7 perhaps?
     
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    All AR-15's, M1's, Mini-14's, and most other modern battle rifles.
    And many others that load every single round from the mag by the extractor snapping over the rim after it chambers.

    Anyway, most pistols with external extractors in use today will not be harmed by occasionally single loading a round in the chamber.

    It is not a good thing to do with an internal extractor like those used on the 1911.

    The biggest hazard is, not having the round fully chambered before dropping the slide on it.
    People have had injury's occur by dropping the slide on an unchambered round and have the extractor hook or projection on the slide hit the primer and set it off out of battery.

    Note Rugers instructions say:
    Had the OP done that, his little venture with the 9mm stuck in a .380 could not have happened.

    rc
     
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    You are correct, sir. The M9 (92) was specifically designed with this feature requested.
     
  20. Mp7

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    that will be a nice visit to the gunsmith:

    "Sir, could you please make fun of me while getting
    the cartridge out?!"
     
  21. harmon rabb

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    pretty much how it went :eek: he got it out of there in like 5 minutes, charged me $20. :shrug: stupidity tax :eek:

    and i won't load autoloaders like that anymore.
     
  22. Odd Job

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    You did the right thing to fix the problem. That's what counts in the end.
     
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    hai rabb
     
  24. ATBackPackin

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    Beats having an AD or damaging your gun.;)
     
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    Not to be a smart-a$$, but that's why I won't have pistols in both 9x18 and .380. I like my commie-chic collection of 9x18 pistols. I want to start collecting some small, classic early 20th century pistols, but they'll all be in .32 ACP. The only tinge of regret my rule evokes is the Mustang/SiG 238.
     
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