Accurate American designed handgun
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Gryffydd
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That's from a Kahr P380 pocket pistol
I really don't think I need to bring you any more examples. If a .380 pocket pistol can do it, there's not many that can't.
KBintheSLC
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Really? Thats funny to hear considering a little fella named Dave Sevigny uses a nearly bone stock Glock 34 to "hold a candle" to countless competitors who are using $3000-$5000 Rolex 1911's.
Gryffydd
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Bone stock XD 45:
That *is* pretty impressive. And a whole lot better than I can shoot, especially on the move!
That *is* pretty impressive. And a whole lot better than I can shoot, especially on the move!
Demitrios
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The most accurate I've seen is a Caspian built 1911 that was consistently pull 1 1/2 inch groups from 50 yards. Keep in mind this was being shot from a Ransom Rest.
Rugg_Ed
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I will have to go with rcmodel.
The day any of my 1911s put out a 3 inch pattern @25yrds there going in for a overhaul.
The day any of my 1911s put out a 3 inch pattern @25yrds there going in for a overhaul.
I'm wondering how the OP can say that there are very few accurate American designed handguns. Have you never heard of Smith and Wesson, Colt, Ruger, Kimber, Kahr, Rock Island Armory, Springfield, Dan Wesson, etc, etc?
Any one of these companies makes several different models that will meet the "criteria" listed. While you admit you are not an expert you obviously have done little research in the area as well. Any internet search can easily turn up multitudes of American designed handguns that when shot well are very accurate. Accuracy, far more often than not, is in the hand of the shooter, not the weapon.
Any one of these companies makes several different models that will meet the "criteria" listed. While you admit you are not an expert you obviously have done little research in the area as well. Any internet search can easily turn up multitudes of American designed handguns that when shot well are very accurate. Accuracy, far more often than not, is in the hand of the shooter, not the weapon.
ljnowell
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Built and designed in croatia. Originaly called the hs2000. Same gun, just sold for half as much.
You are the first person I have ever met to get SWCs to feed in a XD45. What length and bullet?
KBintheSLC
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You are missing the point...
What I am saying is that you don't have to spend thousands on a custom 1911 to have accuracy. There are plenty of accurate guns out there, and they are priced in the hundreds... not the thousands. All of these 1911 fan boys a really bordering snobbery at some point. The fact is that it is a pistol... and 99.99% of the time, if you miss it is because of your technique, not because of the gun. We are not talking about long range sniper rifles.
Gryffydd
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Wasn't me. It's from this review of the gun
http://www.gunblast.com/Springfield-XD45.htm
I realize that it was designed and made in Croatia. I posted that as a direct response to the comment on XD and Glock accuracy not being close to a match 1911. 3/4" at 25 yards is hard to improve upon by a measurable margin.
Clipper
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Shoot... My Florida-designed & made, lifetime guaranteed, under-a-pound-loaded Kel-Tec PF-9 shoots 1 1/2" groups at 15 yards (unsupported Weaver) with the Silvertip ammo I use...Do the math.
ljnowell
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I gotcha. To be honest, I can take the abuse if it offends some, I dont believe everything on that page. The internet is covered with people talking about the xd45 not feeding SWCs. A friend had one (that I have now) and with three different 200gr bullet profiles, loaded in .005" increments in length went from min to max and could not get any of them to feed reliably. The most we had was two shots in row. All over the net, even on the Xd forums this is discussed. In fact, Missouri Bullet makes a bullet specifically designed for the xd, as it wont feed the swc.
SSN Vet
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wouldn't a Browning High Power fit the ticket?
Fabricated by FN of course... but designed by our very own JMB
Fabricated by FN of course... but designed by our very own JMB
JohnBT
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"Thats funny to hear considering a little fella named Dave Sevigny uses a nearly bone stock Glock 34 "
He's shooting bullseye now with his Glock? I thought he was still an action shooter.
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He's shooting bullseye now with his Glock? I thought he was still an action shooter.
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That is insignificant because he doesn't shoot bullseye with it. We are talking accuracy alone here. Those guys shoot a competition which only requires the accuracy that almost any modern well made autoloader can deliver. The requirements to shoot at that level are 99% talent and 1% equipment. He could probably beat us with any gun out there..and other professional shooters could beat us using his Glock I'm sure. When you are sponsored, you shoot the gun made by your sponsor.
3" at 25 yds ??
I've got several factory guns that will shoot better than that.
S&W M-41, S&W M-686, S&W M-29, Ed Brown Special Forces, Browning Hi-Power Practical. Heck I'd almost bet my old Ruger Blackhawk would shoot into 3" at 25 yds.
I've got several factory guns that will shoot better than that.
S&W M-41, S&W M-686, S&W M-29, Ed Brown Special Forces, Browning Hi-Power Practical. Heck I'd almost bet my old Ruger Blackhawk would shoot into 3" at 25 yds.
Bula
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Clarence, I'd bet your old blackhawk could do that at 50 yds.
I have read on many forums that P95 has the worst accuracy. It was one of the reasons why posted this question initially
Sam1911
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A P95 that will shoot 1.5" groups at 50 yds? Well, now, that IS impressive. Les Baer will build you a 1911 and guarantee that kind of accuracy... but not even all Baer guns are so certified.
Like to see that one myself.
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Quack
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most 1911's will do 3"
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