leadcounsel
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'splain to me of the advantages and disadvantages of a pump action .3006 over a bolt action.
Advantages of a pump action .3006 Remington
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rbernie
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If you use shotguns a lot, the manual of arms will be similar.
It may prove faster to cycle, for some folk.
It definitely is more sensitive to ammo quality, and does not have the ability to chamber or extract as positively as a turnbolt.
It may prove faster to cycle, for some folk.
It definitely is more sensitive to ammo quality, and does not have the ability to chamber or extract as positively as a turnbolt.
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The pump 06 in the carbine configuration is what I would consider having any advantage over a bolt rifle.
This is an opinion for the 760 style pump as I have not used any others.
The compact and slim lines plus faster cycle time should be noted as well as detacable magazine.
The receivers are the same size and shape as a 20ga 870 and very easy to mount just as the shotgun is.
All in all a real nice package as a carbine but I think the attraction starts to wane with the longer barrels.
This is an opinion for the 760 style pump as I have not used any others.
The compact and slim lines plus faster cycle time should be noted as well as detacable magazine.
The receivers are the same size and shape as a 20ga 870 and very easy to mount just as the shotgun is.
All in all a real nice package as a carbine but I think the attraction starts to wane with the longer barrels.
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they are very handy brush guns
they deliver very fast follow on shots, much faster than a boltie and even faster than a lever gun, as the recoil of the rifle assists cycling the action.
you can easily keep your eyes and sights on the target & finger on/at the trigger, while cycling the action
yet they are simple and stone cold reliable
they are quite popular up in this neck of the woods
they deliver very fast follow on shots, much faster than a boltie and even faster than a lever gun, as the recoil of the rifle assists cycling the action.
you can easily keep your eyes and sights on the target & finger on/at the trigger, while cycling the action
yet they are simple and stone cold reliable
they are quite popular up in this neck of the woods
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R.W.Dale
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Well they're as accurate as a typical sporter weight bolt gun.
they weigh about the same
they're faster on follow up
the detachable mag is nice
they come with sights
they point, handle and shoot like a dream
Cons
The trigger isn't as nice
they're much more fiddly when the time comes for a detailed cleaning
primary chambering and extraction is much much weaker than on a bolt gun
Well they're as accurate as a typical sporter weight bolt gun.
they weigh about the same
they're faster on follow up
the detachable mag is nice
they come with sights
they point, handle and shoot like a dream
Cons
The trigger isn't as nice
they're much more fiddly when the time comes for a detailed cleaning
primary chambering and extraction is much much weaker than on a bolt gun
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One huge advantage in past years was that it (760) had a detachable mag, and most bolt actions did not. Now many do, so the advantage is not as great. In some states it is/was against the law to carry a loaded rifle in a vehicle while going to or from the hunt. This was easily handled by having the 760 unloaded on the front seat, but a detachable mag ready to throw in. Could not do that with most bolt actions of years past.
Also, the free floating barrel is very accurate. Some bolt actions claim to be free floating are really not. The 760 is for sure.
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I assume you are thinking about the Remington 7600/760 or its predecessor, the Model 76. For hunting it is a great rifle. They are fast and accurate and legal in all states that allow rifles for deer hunting.
If you hunt small game with a pump shotgun, it should fit like a glove.
The only negative I can see with the rifle is that it will not be quite as accurate as the bolt action rifle typically. But they are plenty accurate for deer or bear hunting.
My Dad has one and I grew up seeing that as the classic "deer rifle". He has shot many a buck with that rifle.
If you are thinking pump "assault rifle", large magazine capacity are not available beyond 10; most are 5's which is what everyone uses for hunting. Come to think of it, Remington does make a urban version of that rifle.
If you hunt small game with a pump shotgun, it should fit like a glove.
The only negative I can see with the rifle is that it will not be quite as accurate as the bolt action rifle typically. But they are plenty accurate for deer or bear hunting.
My Dad has one and I grew up seeing that as the classic "deer rifle". He has shot many a buck with that rifle.
If you are thinking pump "assault rifle", large magazine capacity are not available beyond 10; most are 5's which is what everyone uses for hunting. Come to think of it, Remington does make a urban version of that rifle.
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That's not been my experiance. I firmly believe that the Rem7600 is the most out of the box accurate sporter weight centerfire rifle Remington makes today. A fully free floated to the receiver bbl and a floating bolt head are probably the most likely reasons for this.
my grandpa used one with iron sights due to him being used to shooting pumps. His gun however isn't very accurate anymore and is very awkward bulky/front heavy etc... however I believe it is an older model and it is "Very" well used - the stain has been completely worn of the butt of the stock etc...
Now - My uncle however has the a newer model and oh boy its a nice rifle in .270 - His I think is a model 760 - now they have the 7600.
It is a light rifle that is clean cut and well made. You don't have to worry about bedding the action or any other jazz, it is very accurate - 1.5" groups at 100 yards with general core lokts from a sub par shooting bench and 1-4x20mm scope.
If you want a pump rifle - I would put get it. It is one rifle that has not dropped in quality compared to some of remington's other rifles.
Advantages over a pump action compared to a bolt?
- you can cycle the action faster
- more steel, less wood
-detachable mag - some bolts do not have this, it is a nice feature.
-standard with iron sights
Disadvantages
- bolts are more reliable
- sometimes you have to pump pretty hard depending on how worn in/nice it feeds
-harder to shoot off a rest as you have to lift the gun up to cycle vs work the bolt so it could be slower for follow up shots?
BASICALLY - its personal preference. If your a long time 870 wingmaster shooter you should go with the 7600.
If your doing varmint hunting however I'd go into the bolt action models.
Now - My uncle however has the a newer model and oh boy its a nice rifle in .270 - His I think is a model 760 - now they have the 7600.
It is a light rifle that is clean cut and well made. You don't have to worry about bedding the action or any other jazz, it is very accurate - 1.5" groups at 100 yards with general core lokts from a sub par shooting bench and 1-4x20mm scope.
If you want a pump rifle - I would put get it. It is one rifle that has not dropped in quality compared to some of remington's other rifles.
Advantages over a pump action compared to a bolt?
- you can cycle the action faster
- more steel, less wood
-detachable mag - some bolts do not have this, it is a nice feature.
-standard with iron sights
Disadvantages
- bolts are more reliable
- sometimes you have to pump pretty hard depending on how worn in/nice it feeds
-harder to shoot off a rest as you have to lift the gun up to cycle vs work the bolt so it could be slower for follow up shots?
BASICALLY - its personal preference. If your a long time 870 wingmaster shooter you should go with the 7600.
If your doing varmint hunting however I'd go into the bolt action models.
JImbothefiveth
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A pump rifle will discourage use of a target or biathlon stance when shooting offhand, if it's similiar in size to a pump shotgun.
Not sure if you'll be doing much offhand shooting.
Not sure if you'll be doing much offhand shooting.
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Another feature is they are a more compact rifle Than a long action bolt, and considered more realible than the 742. A local gunsmith will convert Remington autos to pumps especially after they have jammed and ruined the receiver. Follow up shots are much quicker than a bolt because hand movement is much simpler and you are much less ampt to lose the sight picture. they are popular as a woods rifle especially in bad weather.
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They used to be fairly popular in PA where semi-autos were prohibited. Maybe Obama will bring them back.
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