Advice on SHOTGUN Purchase

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Duckster

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:confused: I'm looking to getting a shotgun for home protection next year. Especially since I'm getting out of the Army and will be moving off post. I've used the pumps before during anti-terrorist training. The local gun shop has a "Terminator II" lever action, but heard they jam. It looks cool:cool: What shotguns do you all suggest I get for home protection for around $600.
In advance, I thank you for your replies:)
 
I second the motion for an 870. Built like a tank, reliability I'd stake my life on, parts galor should the rare breakage occur, many options for customization.
 
Thanks Bellani and Norton

What is considered a resonable price? Would my untrained wife find it easy to use? Thanks for your advice:)

P.S. PICTURE???
 
Go with the 870

pretty hard to beat a 870 with a 18 1/2 or 20 inch barrel. It will also be a simple task to teach your wife how to shoot it.
light loads work great, no need for buck shot or slugs
Steve
 
IN a new gun the 870 is tough to beat. I favor a Winchester Model 12, just because it has no disconnector, hold back the trigger and pump... :)
 
Buy the very cheapest gun you can find...$50 or less. You chances of needing to use deadly force are somewhat smaller than being eaten by a shark, or dying in an airplane crash.
 
Any US made pump shotgun currently made with a short barrel will do yeoman service for HD.

In the order I prefer them, they are....

The Remington 870.

The Remington 870.

The Ithaca 37.

The Winchester 1300.

Mossberg's 500/590 series.

However, even the Maverick ,Mossberg's cost cutting Mexican subsidary shotgun will do the job.

More crucially, the software has to be well practiced.

Shoot your shotgun. Use light loads and shoot trap, skeet, Sporting Clays, Steel plates, tin cans, landfill rats and B-27s, but shoot lots.

Some time later,without adding any accessories or gadgets, you'll have a really deadly HD shotgun.

HTH....
 
I agree that the 870 is going to be your best bet.

I prefer the ithica 37 if you can find one however.
 
mag extension

Try and stay away from the magazine extension. A standard 3-4 rounds should be enough. Plus IMHO a liberal judge/jury and lawyer might make serious "they were looking for it" crap out of a shotgun with a 8 round extension. Hopefully you will never need to use any of it.
Steve
 
I'd get the remington 870 Express HD. I picked mine up for $299 new. It has an 18.5" barrel and mag extention.

As a side note on the extention: if the shotgun is only going to live it home, I wouldn't worry about the mag extention biting you in the unlikely event it was use to defend yourself in your home.
 
duckster,

With things that go bump in the night, it isn't the odds that matter- it's the stakes. Do get a good shotgun, it isn't necessary to break the bank to do it. Used will do just fine if you shop carefully, I've been shooting 870s for going on 40 years and have yet to buy a new one. It is the skill and ability and confidence of the shooter that matters more than the hardware used.

Make sure the gun fits the shooter. That's the primary thing. Bigger shooters can use guns fitted to smaller shooters easier than vice versa.

Practice and train, train and practice. Then do it some more. Trigger time is how you get good with a shotgun. Start slow with light loads and learn good habits- safety first, last and always. You don't want to have an accident with any gun but for sure you don't want to have one with a shotgun. They make BIG holes in things.

Stay safe,

lpl/nc
 
Guess I'll break up this Remington love fest :evil: by saying a Mossberg 500. It will do everything the 870 will for about $100 less. I've seen lightly used ones for $150 and less at gun shows. Plus barrels can be found for less money if you decide to do some sport shooting with it. If you can, shoot one of each and see which one fits you best. Try out a Win 1300 and Ithaca 37 too if you can get your hands on one. And you might want to think about a youth model in 20ga if there is a chance your wife/SO might need to use it for HD. Much easier for a smaller person to handle with almost no loss in stopping power at true HD ranges. You'd find it much easier to handle a smaller set up then they would handle an over sized one. Just a couple ideas.
 
The Mossberg 500 is a good gun, personally I prefer my 870 police model but I'd feel well equiped with either. One thing to keep in mind is that the mossberg is considerably lighter than the Remington. This is kind of a mixed blessing. Recoil from 3" magnum buck and slugs can be a little painful with the Mossberg. 2 3/4" buck is quite manageable from either gun.
 
Skip the folding and trick stocks, the recoil pad is better on stock 870. The express models can be had for cheap, the 'police' model for under $400.
 
You can find a good Mossberg M500 for a couple hundred bucks. The Mossberg Maverick 88 models are the same gun as a M500 with a few (mostly cosmetic) differences, and I prefer the safety location on the Mav88 over the M500 safety. A good used Maverick 88 by Mossberg is well under $150 for a good used example. Don't screw around with pistol grip stocks or forends; a good polymer buttstock and standard forend with an 18.5" barrel is ideal. Most SD shotgun use will be 6' distance and under so don't worry about laser sights or anything fancy. Just point and pop. The Mav88 mossberg is actually a no frills M500; the forend is slightly different mechanically but functionally more or less identical. You can't go wrong with a Mossberg.

By the same token Remington 870s, Winchester Speedpumps/1300s, etc are all good choices. There are those who will say, only buy an 870 because that's what the cops use, or only buy a Mossberg because the Marines use them... Well, a lot of people buy Fords, and a lot buy Chevys, but they both haul the mail adequately. Buy what you can find the best deal on and like the most. Check out safety location, feel of the stocks, etc. and get what you want. Buy a box or two of tactical 00 buckshot, and a half-a-dozen boxes of cheap birdshot (I like #6) and practice with it.
A good quality bright flashlight should be kept near the shotgun. Check the batteries often and don't let the wife/kids "borrow" the light, treat it like a fire extinguisher, need to know where it is at all times.
 
My thoughts

You also want to consider the barrel length. Close quarters means you need a shorter barrel to be maneuverable. I've never gone looking for Mossbergs for HD. Is the HD Mossberg 18"long like the Remy? I've fired the 870 HD, and I am impressed. My local supplier has 870's almost a hundred bucks cheaper, and the thing fires nice groups with rifled slugs and sprays lead well enough.

I have a feeling the brand name game with HD shotguns is like the Glock/everything else fandom in pistols. Hold them both, fire your friend's, then decide.
 
Mossberg 500A 20'' with a speedfeed stock.. or, a Mossberg 18'' with a side saddle and a knoxx breachers grip.. and a light system is very important. get a good quality light source..
 
mossber 500 special purpose... i dont own one, just found the link

remington 870 and 100 tactical - here

but i seriously suggest going with a benelli, scroll down the specifications list and you'll find the AMAZING guns for $325 - $515

the benellis you only have to clean every 500-1000 shots, excellent guns, you will have NO regrets with it
benellis are used widely throught the military and police
 
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