Aimpoint 9000 2x?

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Anyone use one? I'm looking to put one on a scout-mount on a hunting rifle, and would be interested in hearing from anyone that has used one.

I'm curious how the optics themselves work, in terms of distortion, clarity/resolution, etc.
 
Well I broke down and ordered a 9000L 2X-1. ... :)

I was out to buy a scope and somehow ended up buying the Aimpoint. Not sure how that happened ... :uhoh: Probably had something to do with the sale, unlimited eye relief and parallax free.

Read some mixed reviews on the 2X model. Hope it turn out okay ...
 
I ordered the 2MOA dot 2x version, since it'll be mounted scout-style. I'll post some feedback when I get it.
 
Got mine in last night. I got the 9000L 2x with a 2MOA dot. The optics show little to no barrel or pincushion distortion at close ranges (which is where most less-expensive optics fail). They seem reasonably crisp, but I've not done (and probably won't do) a true resolution test. Color balance appears good; it renders natural light well and without the blue cast of most red dots. This should make the optic more useful in the deep woods than my M2s.

The bodies appear to be typical Aimpoint - sturdy as heck and with thick anodizing. I got the long version because it seemed as if it would be easier to mount on various hunting rifles, but I'm actually surprised at how LONG it actually is. It makes my Leupold FXII 2.5x scout scope look delicate in comparison.

My biggest nit is with the amount of light flare within the body; it's far more pronounced than any commercial magnified optic of the same price range. It could probably REALLY use a sunshade (I find the killflash to be very distracting in the deep woods). Also, the bikini cover is a cheezy affair; I shouldn't have to shell out another $30 for the 'official Aimpoint-logo' lens flip covers.

For the money - I'm very pleased. I'd not be quite so pleased if I spent retail on it, but I'd still give it a solid rating.
 
Finally got outside yesterday to do some shooting - lots of overcast and fog.

My observations are similar.

The 2X lens brings all the good and bad that one would expect from increased magnification. The image is sharp and reasonably bright and field of view is reduced. However, unlike my 1X Ultradot, the inside wall of the 2X Aimpoint is visible along the length of the tube. It's kind of hard to explain, but when you view the Ultradot from behind, all you see is a silhouette of the scope body with a clear image of the target at the same magnification. The rear and forward lenses are the same diameter.

On the 2X Aimpoint, the forward lens appears smaller in diameter than the rear lens. The difference in diameter is the inside of the scope that you see when looking through the scope. Personally, this doesn't bother me at all. But I could see where some might be distracted by it.

The 1 MOA dot is obviously smaller but still very visible when the brightness is increased. Like the Ultradot, the dot shape is distorted and flaring increases as dot brightness increases. I was hoping that the extra cost/quality of the Aimpoint would reduce dot distortion. Unfortunately, it doesn't.

All in all, I'm pleased and it's a keeper for me at the reduced price.
 
Dot distortion is most likely in your eye. The average, healthy human eye has a resolution no better than about 1 MOA, therefore a 2 MOA dot is near infinitesimal, and any imperfection in your eye sight will be noticeable when trying to resolve the dot in any one of these type of sights. You can prove this to yourself by rotating the sight as you look through it. (Aimpoint talks about this in their litterature) If the "distortion" rotates along with the sight, the problem is in the sight. This won't happen with an Aimpoint-- any "distortion" keeps the same orientation, as you turn the sight, proving that the problem is in your eye. Good, clean corrective lenses will usually eliminate perceived distortion. A smaller pupil, as in when you're in bright conditions, will also reduce any optical error somewhat. See your optomitrist. By The Way--This is also why we keep both eyes open, even when using iron sights or a high-power telescope, even if we have to use cellophane tape to prevent distraction-- it keeps your pupils smaller, hence making your accuity and depth of field better.

Any dot flare is a result of too much dot brightness, but some people with laser-corrected vision have reported seeing more flare.

The Aimpoint 2x sights have fairly little field of view for a 2x sight, and the FOV gets smaller as the sight gets farther from your eye. Mounting one forward of the receiver will mean you have very limited FOV. This isn't a problem if you're using the "Binden Aiming Concept" however (Aiming with both eyes open, focusing on the target). For rapid targeting you use it just like a 1x Aimpoint, and when you settle onto the target, you use the magnified image coming in through your sighting eye.

The weirdness of the 2x Aimpoint comes from the fact that it is not a telescope in the conventional sense-- it's a 1x Aimpoint sight with a magnifier plugged onto the front of it.

I've used them in the past and wasn't impressed, but that was before I fully understood the two-eyes-open-while-using-a-2x-sight concept (BAC). We just got a few more in at UltiMAK and though I have one mounted in the forward position on an M1A and the sight picture is clear and bright, I intend to take it out to the range and actually shoot with it before I come to any further conclusions.
 
Laser correction

Any dot flare is a result of too much dot brightness, but some people with laser-corrected vision have reported seeing more flare.

That's me! just a wee flare to the right, and I keep both eyes open.

I just obtained the new one (Micro?) and it is small, on my Ruger Mini 14, have not fired it yet, will do in the next week.
 
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