Aimpoint or EoTech

Aimpoint or EoTech

  • Aimpoint

    Votes: 50 56.8%

  • EoTech

    Votes: 38 43.2%
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Ask yourself this: what happens if it fails to turn on when you need it to work?

If the answer is, "I'll get huffy and frustrated, but it's not the end of the world", get an Eotech. They're cheaper and have a useful reticle for sport shooting. Pack a few spare batteries and you're g2g.

If the answer is, "I could be killed", get an Aimpoint.

Mike
 
I vastly prefer the Aimpoint. I like its battery life, I like its reliability, and I really like the fact that I can work its minimalist controls (on/off/brightness) in the dark via tactile feel alone and that it will never do anything (turn itself off, for example) that I didn't explicitly ask for.
 
Intended use?
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Exactly...... if you are in the military or law enforcement I will say Aimpoint... if you are a weekend warrior I would tell you to save yourself $400 and go with Primary Arms. I paid $99 for a red dot sight with 4 different reticles, solid construction, 7 adjustable brightness settings, Looks almost identical to an aimpoint , and the best CS I have ever experienced. BTW, I also have an EOTech and have had an Aimpoint, other than a longer battery life I don't see much difference between the Aimpoint and the PA.
 
What you will see with the cheaper red dots over time, and very often, just a short time is, they dont/wont hold up to even moderate use.

If I had back all the money I wasted on the "cheaper" red dots, I could have bought more Aimpoints and mounts. I've learned my lesson, and sometimes you just have to do it the hard way to get the point.
 
I also suggest an Aimpoint. In addition to the above facts I've also found that an Aimpoint doesn't demonstrate as much perceivable parallax as the EOTECH.
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Proof that any info found on the forums is guaranteed to be well thought out and factual. (smacks head)

Personally, like the larger view of the Eotech and the faster aiming setup. Mine's been indestructible but Eotech AND Aimpoint both send out the occasional bad apple. They're both fairly different IMHO and you should try both out and see which you prefer. Also, yes the Aimpoint has a supposed 50,000 hour battery life or something like that but if you're in a situation where you need that many hours, odds are you're being issued your sight and don't have a choice in the matter. If you're shooting for pleasure and paying for your own sight then you probably aren't going to buy a $500 sight and then cry at the thought of buying the occasional $3 pack of batteries.
 
For me, I dont normally "aim" with my Aimpoints, I just look at the target, and the dot verifies that the bullet is going where I'm looking. The heads up type on the other hand, do seem to require "aiming" for me, as the reticule/dot, dont usually naturally appear where I'm looking, and I always seem to have to go look for them first.

Whats annoying about the batteries, either way, is to shoulder the rifle, and not see a dot. In one case, its annoying and maybe the loss of a critter, in another, it could be deadly. As I said earlier, I dont turn mine off, and have yet to find a gun with one mounted, with a dead sight. I change batteries once a year in the spring, when I change out my smoke detector batteries.

What I've found with the Aimpoints over most others is, I can still always see my iron sights through the tube with the Aimpoints, as most will easily cowitness with the dot. I also always have instant verification my dot is still zeroed at any given moment. I've had bad luck in that respect with most others.
 
For me, I dont normally "aim" with my Aimpoints, I just look at the target, and the dot verifies that the bullet is going where I'm looking. The heads up type on the other hand, do seem to require "aiming" for me, as the reticule/dot, dont usually naturally appear where I'm looking, and I always seem to have to go look for them first.
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That's a gun fit/cheek weld issue rather than an optic issue, IMO. An Aimpoint, an Eotech, or any other 1x optic with a lower-1/3 cowitness puts the dot in pretty much the same place relative to the gun and your eye.

What I've found with the Aimpoints over most others is, I can still always see my iron sights through the tube with the Aimpoints, as most will easily cowitness with the dot. I also always have instant verification my dot is still zeroed at any given moment. I've had bad luck in that respect with most others.
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That's also a gun-fit issue, as an optic that is set too high will make it difficult to see the front and rear sight through the lens. Eotechs on flattop AR's certainly have no problem with this, but if you use either one on a riser/mount that is a little too tall, cowitnessing will be problematic.
 
I went with Aimpoint, because I have one on my XCR and I love it. Get what you love, if you can try either.
 
What you will see with the cheaper red dots over time, and very often, just a short time is, they dont/wont hold up to even moderate use.

If I had back all the money I wasted on the "cheaper" red dots, I could have bought more Aimpoints and mounts. I've learned my lesson, and sometimes you just have to do it the hard way to get the point.
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I agree but as to the Primary Arms, I would suggest one do the research and see what I'm referring to. On arf.com, the usual snobbish AR crowd love Primary Arms and buy him out of almost everything as soon as he gets them. If you have disposable income, get an Aimpoint, if you don't, get the Primary Arms, it's a massive value for $99 and I for one am overjoyed with my decision to go with them, the owner stands behind it and will refund or exchange if you are not happy, no questions asked. BTW, I got the M3 multi reticle, has a 2MOA dot, a crosshair, a 20MOA circle with a 2MOA dot inside, and a crosshair with a circle in the middle.
 
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Aimpoint/ACOG = Ferarri/Lamborghini
Primary Arms = Honda

Both will get you where you wanna go, some just in more style. Again, if going into combat or on patrol or simply want to fit in with the uber tacticool range crowd, go with Aimpoint/ACOG, if going to the range and to plink around, get something cheaper.
 
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If your life, will or could depend on the optic, go with either Aimpoint .

For fun and games, Eotech. I have several Aimpoints and Eotechs. For the carbine matches I shoot Eotech serves me best for grins and giggles.

But when it comes to a fight and me or my loved ones ass is on the line, Aimpoint in the house for CQB. These days that is a SCAR with the AimPoint micro T-1 on a medium rise Larue Quick detach mount. For out side play at range, I prefer my ACOG.

That's the way I run.

Go figure.

Fred

Go figure.
 
I agree but as to the Primary Arms, I would suggest one do the research and see what I'm referring to. On arf.com, the usual snobbish AR crowd love Primary Arms and buy him out of almost everything as soon as he gets them. If you have disposable income, get an Aimpoint, if you don't, get the Primary Arms, it's a massive value for $99 and I for one am overjoyed with my decision to go with them, the owner stands behind it and will refund or exchange if you are not happy, no questions asked. BTW, I got the M3 multi reticle, has a 2MOA dot, a crosshair, a 20MOA circle with a 2MOA dot inside, and a crosshair with a circle in the middle.
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Yup. The guys over on M4carbine.net also rate the Primary Arms Micro pretty highly as a 2nd-tier optic, and they are a hard group to please. And by all accounts, the manufacturer stands behind his product very well.

What you lose with the Primary Arms relative to the Aimpoint is battery life, some ruggedness, and probably a smidgen less light transmission. But at its price point, there isn't much that can compete with it; most everything else under $100 is Airsoft junk, whereas the Primary Arms unit is definitely a serious-optic-on-a-budget.
 
Let me preface this by saying that I don't care for any "red-dot", but if forced to choose I would take the Aimpoint hands down, even though the EOTech is easier for me to use with my eye sight. The EOTech is simply not reliable enough in construction or battery life.

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As I remember, I initially couldn't get it to come on. Finally it did. Later I pulled up to shoot, and the reticle was gone. Seems like pushing the down button made it come on but the up button caused it go off..something weird like that. It's been a few months.
 
Owned Eotech and Trijicon Reflex. Got rid of both and bought a pair of Aimpoints. Long-life, single dot, easy-on, easy-off...simplicity.
 
Just got a "new" Aimpoint today. It's a Mark III, which was discontinued in 1986. It came on a .44 Mag T/C Contender bbl that I traded for at the LGS. It spent who knows how many years & rounds on that .44 Mag bbl, which was previously owned by another regular customer. He was a police officer, and now does animal control in a rural neighboring county, so I know there's a serious round count on it. The sight still holds zero, and the automatic brightness adjustment via the photo diodes still works flawlessly. Not bad for an electronic sight that's 24+ years old now.
 
Speaking of the Reflex (and Reflex-II), I never have understood why they didn't catch on more...after all they offer the ultimate in battery life. Am I missing something?

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Speaking of the Reflex (and Reflex-II), I never have understood why they didn't catch on more...after all they offer the ultimate in battery life. Am I missing something?
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Actually it's pretty simple math.

Yes. For the price of two or three batteries, my Aimpoint M3 will still be running at full strength when any Tritium based optic will be going back to the factory (Hoping they still exist) in about 12-15 years.

Compound that with Aimpoint's, New M4 and micro versions T-1, H-1, R-1 all with even superior battery life. Rugged, and ridiculously long battery life, that is genuine. I can depend on my Aimpoint, regardless of model to be nice and as bright as I need it, when I desperately need it, without having to A) remember to turn it on B) Already have it at my chosen intensity, with no fiddling around. Ready to go as soon as I grab it. Almost as reliable as irons, and more effective on target. Particularly for those of us with really lousy eyesight.

Same problem with my Eotech's. Batteries. I can't speak for other folks but Murphy has always been involved with my life.

In fact I prefer O'Leary's corollary on Murphy's law. "Murphy is an optimist".

When the rubber meets the road, my weapon will have an Aimpoint on it. I do enjoy to play with my Eotech's though. But that is what it is, play.

Simply put, I play with Eotech, I fight with Aimpoint.

Good luck.

Fred
 
Prob with Reflex was twilight. The transition period was too dark for fiber optic and still too light for tritium.
 
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Prob with Reflex was twilight. The transition period was too dark for for fiber optic and still too light for tritium.
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That makes sense; I appreciate the information.

:)
 
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