Airline transport and CCW in Las Vegas - my experience

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I am a resident of Idaho in Las Vegas on vacation. I've had my Idaho CCW for some time and a few months back I secured my Utah CCW so I could carry in additional states.

Nevada has reciprocity with Utah so I decided to carry outside of Idaho for the first time on this trip.

Transporting via airline from Boise to Las Vegas was was simple. I packed my KelTec P3-AT in a small fireproof lockbox which I had picked up at Target. The lockbox was placed in one of our suitcases. The pistol, unloaded with an empty mag in the well, was locked in the lockbox. I took along five boxes of ammo which were in their original boxes and they were also packed in the lockbox next to the pistol.

We arrived at the Boise airport and went up to the SouthWest Airlines ticketing counter. I declared my firearm and the clerk nodded and filled out a small form which he handed me. After checking in and turning over our other luggage he directed me to take the form and the suitcase with the firearm to the TSA agent adjactent to the ticketing counter.

I took the suitcase and the form to the TSA agent. The agent looked at the form and then opened the suitcase, located the lockbox, and asked me to unlock the box. I opened the lockbox and the TSA agent hesitated when he saw that the ammo was packed with the gun. He said something about "not common" I believe in regards to the ammo being packed with the gun but proceeded to close up the box and ask me to relock it. I relocked it, he placed the form on top of the box, closed up the suitcase, and we were off.

I had checked regulations before I packed up the gun and knew that it was ok to pack the ammo in the same locked case as the unloaded gun. However, based on the TSA agents response I believe it is likely more common to pack ammo separately from the gun. I may consider doing this next time.

We arrived in Las Vegas and retrieved all our luggage successfully. In Clark County (Las Vegas) I had read that you must register your firearms for CCW. So I visited the Sherriff Station at 4860 Las Vegas Boulevard to do the deed.

At the exterior sherriff station doors there was large lettering reading "no loaded firearms". At this point my firearm was still unloaded and in the lockbox but I had removed the ammo from the lockbox in an effort to reduce any potential discomfort the registering officer might have. Upon entry to the station there was an enclosed lobby with two other doors leading into an area with several windowed counterspaces where officers were helping folks. On these doors it read NO FIREARMS with the crossed out gun symbol very large on the doors. In the side of this lobby there was another glass window and a doored pass-through box with a sign that said "Place firearms here". I unlocked the lockbox, placed the unloaded firearm in the pass-through box and closed its door. Within 30 seconds an officer came to the window and asked if I was going to be applying for a CCW. I informed the officer that I had a Utah CCW and was here to register the firearm.

The officer informed me that "there had been a recent policy change" and that is was "no longer necessary for visitors to Las Vegas with valid CCW permits to register their firearms". She politely offered to register the firearm anyway but since this was not necessary I respectfully declined. I did ask the officer for a businesscard so I could illustrate to another officer, if necessary, that I had in fact tried to register the weapon in the event that either (a) the other officer did not know of the "policy change" or (b) the first officer was mistaken with the "policy change". The officer gave me a business card and I was off!

I loaded my weapon in the car and have been carrying in Las Vegas for the past three days. Feels great to be carrying here. Las Vegas sure aint Boise! ;)

We're headed to the Las Vegas airport for the return trip home today. Will report back on the return trip this evening.

IdahoFarmer
 
NV passes a law last year requiring you be a resident for 60 days before any county of city can require you to register your firearm.
 
I flew to San Antonio in Feb for my son's graduation from Air Force basic training. I seldom fly and this was the first time taking a firearm. I was quite surprised at how simple the process was. I used a lockbox that I bought at Wal-mart that looks like a book and packed my gun, spare mag, box of ammo, knife, and badge in it. Both in Boston and San Antonio the TSA people checked it, tagged it, and closed up my suitcase and that was that. I was amazed! I expected it to be a much bigger deal than it was.
 
I appreciate the info re Nevada. I have not been there, and may not go there except passing through, but it is good to know. The last time I drove through I don't think they even had CCW.

I have flown many times, and all went smoothly, but I thought that the ammo could not be in the same container as the gun case. It has never been a problem as I carry a box in the same suit case.

Regards,
Jerry
 
I was flying to Georgia some years back and had to declared a firearm. This was pre-911/pre-TSA so it was actually the baggage check that did the checkin thing. Was really odd opening my case and displaying my firearm at a airline ticket agent.

Nice to see the process hasn't really changed much or gotten harder, just added an additional person to talk to.
 
Idaho - Nevada? How long of a drive is that? If it is less than 10 hours I think I would have just driven it and saved myself the hassle of the airport.
 
Idaho to Las Vegas is a long drive. 10.5 hrs, 622 miles via Google maps. With current gas prices and the worth of a persons time... :scrutiny:

I'm still in the AF, and free time is pretty valuble. When I travel from Tucson to Salt Lake City, I will fly unless I have to drag along more than a suitcase and a bicycle. I am 20 minutes or less from the airport at each end, and Southwest flies direct and cheap even when paying extra for the bike case. 6 hrs or less total trip time. In (relative) comfort, and someone else does the driving. Hoo-ah!

I'll probably do a motorcycle trip up there later this spring, but it will have the double duty of several days of sight-seeing and camping along the way, as I haven't driven the route for several years.
 
The "Blue Card" that you must possess with CCW, or any pistol when in use, even in shooting range, is for NV resident only. I didnt' realize that this was a RECENT change, I have thought for years that visitors did not need it.

I think I've read in airline websites that ammo had to be packed separately from the gun. I have never transported a pistol, but when I go hunting and such, I just have a lockable rifle case with firearm and empty magazines, and keep the ammo in my suitcase, just in factory box.

When you have a rifle case to check in, then the check-in agent places a "firearm" tag inside the case, I'm not sure what it does, but that's been my experience, then you take it to TSA for scan, and when I asked them what they are looking for, they told me that they are making sure that the fiream was not loaded. Except for midwest airline losing my firearm luggage for 2 days on the way back from East Coast, I've never had a bad experience transporting a firearm. :D
 
I am not aware of any airline that requires the ammo to be in a separate container. I always carry my ammo in the same case as my firearm and have never had a problem with it.
 
I was out there a week ago. My wife and I declared and checked a case with four handguns in it. Zero issues to or from.

I carried all week without incident all over the Vegas strip.
 
WC145 what did you do with your gun while on base?
I was reluctant to take mine sense I would have had to leave it in the hotel.
AC
 
Nevada and Las Vegas are Firearms Friendly

I've never had a problem going in or out of Las Vegas with a declared firearm in a locked container in a hardshell suitcase. Everyone's very professional and the TSA guys are very nice about it. It doesn't hurt that I am friendly and congenial with the airline folks and the TSA folks and make sure I follow the regs to the letter.
 
I am not aware of any airline that requires the ammo to be in a separate container. I always carry my ammo in the same case as my firearm and have never had a problem with it.

You're right, I didn't see that on Delta or AA website. I'm not sure where I heard that, perhaps from one of the reps when I called one of those airlines.
 
the first time I flew with a firearm, I arrived in Las Vegas and the TSA just plopped it on the belt.

not a very good feeling.
 
Humm! Nice to hear its no big deal to fly with a firearm. Now if I didn't live in cali I might even have a reason to to put one on a plane.
 
The "Blue Card" that you must possess with CCW, or any pistol when in use, even in shooting range, is for NV resident only.

No, LV is the only place in NV with registration and the blue cards. Now that I'm in Nye county I don't have to bother with them anymore.
 
Valkman: Actually... I believe its Clark County, not just Las Vegas specifically, that has the registration rules.

*** UPDATE ***

Getting back from Las Vegas to Boise with the firearm was actually EASIER that getting from Boise to Las Vegas. At the LV airport I informed the ticket agent at the counter that I needed to declare a firearm. Without hesitation the agent said ok and handed me a blank declaration form (an identical form layout as from the Boise airport). The only difference here was that the ticketing agent asked me to fill out the form where in Boise the ticketing agent filled out the entire form. I completed my name, address, phone number, departing location, arrival location and the agent filled out the flight number and some other "internal use only" section.

Once the form was complete the ticketing agent had me open the suitcase, place the form outside the locked lockbox and then close the suitcase. The agent then asked if the firearm was unloaded. I verbally confirmed that it was unloaded and the ticketing agent put the suitcase on the conveyor belt.

As the agent did this I asked "doesn't TSA need to inspect it" and the ticketing agent said "no, they don't do that anymore". So, my luggage, with locked lockbox inside was off on its journey.

Upon arrival in Boise we retieved all our luggage and my firearm was in the suitcase just as I had left it. Easy!

I plan on carrying in Las Vegas every trip from now on. The Utah CCW is worth its weight in gold as far as I am concerned and transporting the gun on the airline was absolutely hassle free. :)


IdahoFarmer
 
Valkman: Actually... I believe its Clark County, not just Las Vegas specifically, that has the registration rules.
It's Clark County.
Las Vegas Metro Police Department is the head agency for Clark County, so any handgun registration is done at any of the LVMPD substations.

NV residents of Clark County have 72 hours to register their handguns with the LVMPD.
Non-residents of Clark County (ie. visitors) have to register their handguns with LVMPD, if they are staying in Clark County for longer than 60 days.

Only places restricting conceal carry are government/school buildings.
 
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