AK47 Accuracy

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Stock AK47 and stock Mini14 ranch rifle store bought ammo wich is more accurate at 100 yards? Thanks for any info.
 
AK47s are only accurate out to about 10 feet. Past that, you're luck to be able to hit the ground with one. As for Mini30s, they are actually squirt guns that only claim to fire 7.62x39.


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I don't think my opinion matters much, as I seem to be the luckiest SOB in the world. I've had good luck with steel duck bill 30 round SKS mags, Wolf .30 carbine ammo, and Century firearms. But I must say even the crappy WASR-10 I had would shoot circles around the mini 14 Ranch rifle I picked up at Wal-Mart. OK, maybe not circles, but the WASR was slightly better.
 
Just get a Mosin-Nagant 91/30 and bayonet them from 100 yards away. :D


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The new mini-14's probably shoot somewhat better than the typical AK.

The old mini-14's (older than the last year or so) often shot worse than the typical AK.

I have a typical AK (SAR-1, Romanian, 7.62x39mm) and used to have a mini-14 Ranch Rifle, 188-series. I sold the mini because the best group it ever fired was 6 MOA or thereabouts, from a rest and rear bag; POI would shift all over the place over the course of a shooting session. My AK will shoot better than that (typically 4-5 MOA with Wolf; best-ever group is 2.5 MOA with a scope).
 
AK-47 should be fine at 100 yards .. I usually shoot mine at 50 yards and keep really tight groups
 
Once again, i dont shoot my AK from a bench. but i can shoot minute of TV at around 350 yards. which probably means i can hit a human at about the same distance.
 
At up to 200 yards you are pretty much guaranteed to hit your target with an AK... where you hit them is a different matter, but you WILL hit them. :)
 
With good quality ammo, AK's accuracy is about 2-3 MOA. With crappy ammo you cannot accept any accuracy at all. Unfortunately it's much harder to find affordable ammo for AK's 7,62x39 that can deliver even decent accuracy than it's to buy good quality .223 ammo.

AK:s bad reputation is based mostly on poor quality ammunition. For example last 1000 rounds of wolf ammo I got included about 10% "rattling rounds". The bullet core was malformed and it wasn't attached to the jacket. As I weighted some a hundred rounds there was something like 10-15% variations in weight.

There's no rifle that could perform well with poor quality bullets. AK is not exception.
 
Chemist, the YUGOs as built by Century get brand new hammer forged match grade barrels.........

The WASR gets a second rate barrel that didn't meet quality requirements for use in a Military Spec AKM


And for an AKM in the same price range as a MINNI30 ya will be above the $300 WASR and looking at a higher end AK either a Military spec Rommy G build by Lancaster consulting or a Century Build Yugo, the Yugo can get down to 2" from a bench very easily with quality ammo the Rommy G with good ammo will get down to under 3" from a bench


AK SCALE

Bottom of barrel = WASR

Mid range = Military kit built AKM or Century built Yugo

High end = Arsenal, Milled, Pro built Yugo (virgin kit)
 
I do pretty well at 100 yards with my Vepr K (the only AK variant I have). Never tried much of anything past that. Although I did mange to cut a 2x4 down at about 50 yards once, took a lot of ammo (that was back when I was paying 0.08 a round).
 
I have only shot one AK in my life, it was in 7.62. I am not sure of the brand but it was pretty rough looking. Lets say it was not real accurate at 100 yrds. But that could just be me since I am not use to shooting AK or semi auto rifles.
 
owned and shot both AK and mini at one time or another. My experience they are similar, maybe pie plate accurate at 50 yards, man-target accurate at 100 yards, I'm not a very good shot. Your AK has more and cheaper accessories , BUT the mini IS more accurate out of a cold (or at least not hot) barrel. The mini barrel heats up quickly with repeated shots , but I have made fairly accurate hits out to 100 yards with one.
 
Never shoot a AK-clone in cal. .223rem so my answer it not very meaningful. Comparison .223 with 7.62!

I've an older Ruger Mini 14 cal. .223rem and a bulgarian AKM clone cal. 7.62x39. The bulgi AKM is more fun and cheaper to shoot.
I use russian ammo (Barnaul) for both rifles and I'd say accuracy of my bulgarian ak-clone is better better. And if the thinly barrel of ruger's Mini 14 heat up accuracy get very worse!

I'll nerver buy Mini 14 again.
 
"What I don't understand is why would anyone want either"

And the award for open mindedness goes to......never mind

Neither is a target rifle
 
The nicer AK builds are often pretty accurate. Many of the WASR's are pretty accurate, but some are not. Accurate meaning 3 to 4 MOA or better. My Vepr is 2 MOA or so.

I think some AK's could be worse than the mini14, some better. The main limiting factor for AK's IMO is the sights.
 
What I don't understand is why would anyone want either.
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AK's are excellent carbines, particularly for the money. Essentially, it's a detachable-magazine, autoloading .30-30 with more modern looks, a wider range of capacities, and more rugged construction.

My "AK" is perhaps the last rifle I'd part with.

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The mini-14 is also a good little carbine, but (IMHO) overpriced, and the accuracy of the older models was highly variable. My first rifle was a mini-14 Ranch Rifle, and was not one of the accurate ones.

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IMHO, that is more a function of the shooter than the platform. Due to the short sight radius and large amplitude barrel harmonics, the AK is an easy rifle to shoot badly. You can't get good groups with one with a sandbag under the barrel, for example; the bag needs to be as far back as possible, or even behind the magazine if the balance allows it, to minimize barrel jump off the bag.

Having said that, even a Romanian AK with inexpensive ammo will usually stay on a playing card at 50 yards and a 6" disk at 100, from a rest and with good ammunition will shoot better. For those who have trouble with the iron sights, optics help.
 
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