ak47 laws missouri

[scarysuperd]

Hey guys,

How many parts have to be "domestic made" on an ak47 in missouri and what are the penalties of having too many "foreign parts".

Also, on a welded muzzle nut on say an...WASR10, can that be removed to put on a "Muzzle break" ... but not a flash suppressor? I thought a muzzle break was a flash supressor, or is a muzzle break a legal classification for a flash supressor? Also, can anyone under 21 shoot an AK 47 legally by themselves or transport it to their range to shoot by themselves(obviously in the legal fashion) ?

Sorry, new to the game.

Appreciate your help.

 

[12Bravo20]

As long as it meets 922 you can have a muzzle brake on it and the age for long guns is 18 as long as you can legally own it.

 

[GRIZ22]

How many parts have to be "domestic made" on an ak47 in missouri and what are the penalties of having too many "foreign parts".



The parts count is a federal law not a state law.

 

[Hoxviii]

Like was said, it's all federal.

There are no Missouri state gun laws that are stricter than any federal regs. Only thing we have is local municipalities are allowed to ban open carry.

 

[Maxx409]

I think you need 10 domestic parts to be compliant. Do a quick check though to be sure. Also, I've got a slant break on mine. It's not supposed to suppress flash as much as it is to keep the front end from rising during rapid fire. Correct me if I'm wrong gents.

Also, you probably want to make sure the muzzle break is american made. There are some foreign ones out there which would take away one of your ten domestic parts. I got mine here:
http://www.blackjackbuffers.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=76&products_id=361

Paid the full $25 bucks too instead of the sale price!

good luck.

 

[ironhat]

As simple as that slant brake is it really works well. If anyone doubts it just turn it sideways and shoot a few rounds. Yes, the count is 10 but you have to be careful. For example, the fire control group is only counted as one, the two piece front grip is counted as one. Check out www.gunsnet.net for a sticky on this in the AK-47 forum.

 

[scarysuperd]

Well, does anyone know the consequences of braking the 10 domestic parts compliance, jail time , or ?

 

[jackdanson]

Well, does anyone know the consequences of braking the 10 domestic parts compliance, jail time , or ?

Not worth it. I tried looking it up and couldn't find the punishment, but it is a federal firearms law, so I'm guessing it's not a slap on the wrist.

That being said, no one is going to take your gun apart at the range to make sure you are compliant. Also I've never heard of an individual (not a seller) getting busted on 922r compliance, but with the new bosses in town I definetly wouldn't risk it. Furthermore, rule no. 1 about breaking federal law is "Don't post questions about breaking federal laws online"

Also, can anyone under 21 shoot an AK 47 legally by themselves or transport it to their range to shoot by themselves(obviously in the legal fashion) ?

Yes, it is the same as any other rifle, you don't need to be 21 to transport it. In MO you need to be 21 to transport a loaded handgun within your reach in your car, but that is the only transportation law I know of. 23 to get ccw.

 

[Moose458]

You only need 6 US made parts. Go into AKFiles and you can find a complete list of 922r parts. a few are:

receiver = 1
stock set = 3
FCG = 3
gas piston = 1
muzzle brake = 1
magazine parts can also be used

 

[Sam1911]

For example, the fire control group is only counted as one

No, that's not correct.

Hammer + trigger + disconnector = 3 parts

As Moose said.

-Sam

 

[Hoxviii]

In MO you need to be 23 to transport a loaded handgun within your reach in your car, but that is the only transportation law I know of.

It's 21, that was part of the CCW legislation. 18 can have a loaded gun within reach in a vehicle if they are passing through the state on "peaceable journey", 21 if you legaly own and posses the gun, and at 23 you can get a CCW.h

 

[Ignition Override]

Let's remember that in the eyes of many hard-core Dems, the AK-47 is inherently evil and nobody could ever find a use for them.

All federal agency bosses row to their 'masters' commands' or risk losing their federally-appointed jobs.

 

[nalioth]

So who's got an actual AK-47?

I believe there are less than 100 actual imported AK-47s in the country.

Please quit dancing to the anti's tune.

 

[MatthewVanitas]

So who's got an actual AK-47?

I believe there are less than 100 actual imported AK-47s in the country.

Please quit dancing to the anti's tune.

It's been a pretty accepted convention among gun-owners to call rifles patterned after the AK-47 an "AK-47" regardless of being semi-auto. Plus having one common name for the pattern means that folks don't need to quibble about whether they're dealing with a Misr, SLR-95, SAR, or whatnot when they're very similar critters.

Most "FALs" folks here have weren't made in Belgium either...


I don't really consider it "dancing to the anti's tune", since it's not like they'd be totally okay with folks saying "I own a WASR" instead.

Heck, I even take it the opposite direction and tell non gun-savvy friends that my rifle is a "semi-automatice M16". That way they have at least some idea that it's like something they've seen on the news, rather than just being a bunch of numbers.

 

[jackdanson]

It's 21, that was part of the CCW legislation. 18 can have a loaded gun within reach in a vehicle if they are passing through the state on "peaceable journey", 21 if you legaly own and posses the gun, and at 23 you can get a CCW.h

Thanks, sorry, I fixed.

I knew that, I don't know why I put 23.

 

[WardenWolf]

You can have no more than 10 foreign parts. The verdict is out on whether WASRs have a US-made receiver and other parts or not, with some believing they do and others saying they're all Romanian. As sold, they must either be 922(r) compliant or be deemed importable by the ATF. Effectively this means that an unaltered WASR is legal, either meeting 922(r) or being immune to it under section 925 because 922(r) only applies to non-importable configurations.

Unfortunately, the ATF considers a threaded barrel to automatically disqualify any firearm for sporting purposes, so, even if it was immune to 922(r) before, it will have to comply now. They allow pinned on or welded on muzzle brakes, but not flash suppressors. That is their rationale for disallowing threaded barrels: preventing people from installing oh-so-evil flash suppressors.

Assuming these rifles are all Romanian, they would start with a 15 foreign parts count. The good news is that, because the WASR is a standard AK, replacing the various parts with US-made versions is both simple and fairly cheap.

Assuming you don't want to alter the look of your WASR significantly, here are the best parts for a stealth conversion:

1. Pistol grip. US-made pistol grips are readily available and fairly cheap, and can be had in a variety of styles.

2. Trigger group. This counts as 3 foreign parts. This can be swapped in around 15 minutes on a WASR.

3. Magazine floorplates and followers. The mag body, floorplate, and follower each count as a foreign part. After replacing the above parts, you only need one to gain compliance.

If you want to go for the EBR look, you can also replace your furniture with US-made synthetic furniture. I don't personally like this option, as I feel it takes the soul out of the rifle, but it is an option.