Alaskans Need Your Help - Fight Animal Rights Radicals

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Alaskans Need Your Help-fight Aninmal Righs Radicals

As you know, the Fiends of Animals led by Ms Feral tried to stop a predator control program in court and lost. Now there are gonna be howl ins with thousands of postcards sent to the Governor, golly what a great fund raising opportunity they have.

Gov Murkowski said today hes not backing down in the face of a tourism boycott threat. We need to thank him.

I put up a web page on this, all you need to do is click the email button and write a short note. Copies will also be sent to Anchorage news and to us (I will only use that for a final count) Please pass this around to other boards., feel free to email to your shooting buddies

The page with the email link is HERE

Your help is appreciated.

WilddownwithradicalsAlaska
 
i'm battling the same ninnies down here in MD

at least yer old Governor did not appoint them to wildlife management positions

FFA also pays staffers to attend Council of Government meetings

Us other folke have jobs we have to go to...
 
Are the animal rights folks just ignorant? Last I checked, a really big chunk of Alaska's tourism dollars come from people who go up there specifically to shoot the animals.
 
Gov Murkowski said today hes not backing down in the face of a tourism boycott threat
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Why should he ? Chances are he doesn't want those kinds of people in his state anyway.

Don't send them to Arizona, either. What can we do to get them to boycott Arizona ?
 
To my knowledge it's regional. The "green" tourist money comes primarily to the SE and parts of SC. The "hunter" tourist money tends to go to the SW bush and other parts of SC. Since I don't even view SE as part of this state, a decline in their tourism doesn't bug me much. And I have my doubts whether anyone would seriously follow through.

I think the state should launch a nationwide campaign to explain to people just how many wild bears, wolves, caribou, moose, etc. live here. While we're at it we should explain what ANWR really is--a bleak and hideous wasteland that oil drilling would damage through IMPROVEMENT. (Seriously, the major damage done on the slope by big oil has been by IMPROVING conditions, which attracts ravens, griz and other animals not native to the extreme north)
 
Good move. I hope to ride my motorcycle to Alaska one of these days. The thought of large game being uncontrolled doesn't give me the warm fuzzies.
 
Just fired off an email to the gov. WildAlaska. And I've never heard of wolf populations numbers being so low as to be a threatened species any where in this country. I've always heard the opposite.
 
Thanks newshooter..guys I am a bit dissapointed in the lack of effort here, there have been 219 views of this thread and I sures as heck havent got 219 emails...

Funny, everybody wants to whine about the loss of our rights, but golly, all ya got to do is click a button and send an email and ya cant even do that...:confused:

Like Standing Wolf said, this is just another little skirmish in their attemtp to ban hunting..hope some of you care about that...with the type of response I am seeing, no wonder we are losing...

WildgetoutandprotestAlaska
 
everybody wants to whine about the loss of our rights

What 'rights' are you talking about?

The 'right' to kill one species because outfitters can't find 'enough' of a different species to kill - or to take money to allow other, less capable 'sportsmen', to kill FOR ENJOYMENT?

It seems to me that wolves have rights, too, but I'm probably hopelessly naive.

I suppose we could have a discussion about predator/prey balance in functioning ecosystems, but that might not fit so well with the "wild animals as commodity" model presented here.

db
 
What caliber do you recommend for Fiends of Animals - WildyouarespoofinusrightAlaska?
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Nope not spoofing, this is serious bizness...got to show these wacky environmentalist fund raisers that people arent gonna knuckle under

I suppose we could have a discussion about predator/prey balance in functioning ecosystems, but that might not fit so well with the "wild animals as commodity" model presented here.
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Your kidding me, right?

WildwheredoyouliveAlaska
 
Your kidding me, right?

Kidding? No.

At least present some scientific perspective on this. I realize that it plays real well here to assume the "steely-eyed mountain man against the New York animal rights pukes", but the reality is a little different.

I spent some time on the web looking for info of the past and proposed "predator control" plan you mention. There's mostly animal rights stuff out there, some of which is a tiny bit over the top, but there's also some real, useful facts, such as the following:

from http://www.adn.com/opinion/story/4298931p-4309033c.html

Bolds are mine...

...In 1974 I began research on moose and wolves in the Nelchina Basin as a wildlife biologist with the Alaska Department of Fish and Game. Things then were similar to now; the moose population had declined, wolves and bears were abundant, and hunters wanted more moose and caribou. There were widespread cries for wolf control. Fortunately, the department and the board resisted the pressure and recommended studies to clarify the problem. Several research projects showed that bear predation on calves was the fundamental problem. An experimental wolf reduction did not produce more moose. Removing bears improved calf survival. Over time, moose increased without wolf control to relatively high density before severe winters in the late 1980s caused declines.

Research in recent years near Glennallen has shown that severe winters during the past decade and chronic habitat problems were major factors preventing moose population increases. There have been no large forest fires in this area for decades to improve moose habitat. Despite declines, the moose population has been high enough to heavily browse what food was available. And, over the past 20 years, hunters have greatly improved ATV access to several of the most remote areas. The resulting hunting pressure recently caused the board to further restrict hunting to preserve more bulls. All of this suggests that if severe winters, bear predation, poor habitat and hunting are the major problems, a heavy dose of wolf control is unlikely to produce more moose.

Things at McGrath were similar. Bad winters caused a decline of moose, and there were loud cries for wolf control despite very little biological information. Research showed that bear predation on calves was much more important than wolf predation, that habitat in much of the area was poor and that hunting had reduced bulls to low levels in accessible areas. Recent experimental bear removal resulted in much improved calf survival. A moose census in 2001 revealed about twice the number of moose as previously claimed. Again, wolf control will not help if bad winters, bear predation, poor habitat and hunting are primary problems.

I believe that it is fundamental to base wildlife management on sound science. The risk of failure by doing otherwise is much too high. We have the necessary personnel and scientific methods to do it right. Can we all agree that political considerations are secondary?

db
 
As you know, the Fiends of Animals led by Ms Feral tried to stop a predator control program in court and lost.
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Maybe all the hunters out there should mail her some venison as a consolation prize. Please pack it attractively in some dry ice to keep it nice & fresh. Or just send her some (appropriately-named) jerky. :evil:
 
That's a political op/ed piece in the ADN, not a news story. Besides, are you seriously suggesting we wouldn't be facing protests if we were culling BEAR?

I'm also curious, do you have any idea how many wolves there are in this state?
 
True, it's labeled as op/ed, but the guy is a wildlife biolgist. Unless he's lying, he's simply relating, in lay form, the results of state-sponsored studies that conclude that wolf predation is not a significant factor in the decline of moose populations in AK.

Habitat destruction, bear predation, and hunting are the main factors.

If true, why kill wolves?

db
 
Wildalaska,
Earthlink's mail servers don't like the quotes in your addresses, but it finally went through.

Jeff
 
Jeff thanks, and I checked the validity of the email addys and reuploaded the page just in case..I think its earthlink

DaveB, sorry, the writer of that piece is giving his opinion, as he did to the Board of Game this time. Hes enttiled to do that. His opinion and evidence were not in accord with the other information presented. He lost. Now hes supporting the boycott.

In any event, your attitude is best summed up by your slurs against Alaskans

WilwegotlotsofwolvesAlaska
 
Sound science is a good thing, Dave. Unfortunately, we can't always trust wildlife biologists to give us that. Too many of them are in PETA's camp, and have the strange idea that animals have rights. So some of them DO lie. I don't know if THIS one is lying, but I'd like to see more data.


OTOH, too many hunters, shepherds, and cattlemen are quick to blame wolves for predation without any evidence at all.


Hmmm. Same problem on both sides - a lack of commitment to an old concept known as TRUTH has people doing the wrong thing.



In any case, applauding a governor for standing up to these idiots is a good thing.
 
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