all in one cleaner+oil?
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rcmodel
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Break-Free CLP.
Cleans.
Lubes.
Protects.
There are better bore cleaners, better lubricants, and better rust protection available as seperate products, but it will get you by I guess.
rcmodel
Cleans.
Lubes.
Protects.
There are better bore cleaners, better lubricants, and better rust protection available as seperate products, but it will get you by I guess.
rcmodel
Ben Shepherd
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Right, CLP Cleans, Lubes, and Protects adaquately. It does all three OK, but none well.
I like Eezox. It does everything pretty well. It is outstanding as a dry lube and #1 for rust protection. Lasts for two years on safe queens without recoating. Do a Google search and you will find some independant tests of many lubes and their corrosion protection.
Average Joe
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I have been using only Breakfree CLP for years, for me its the bomb.....
4thPointOfContact
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I'm with webbee... Eezox is an Outstanding way to prevent corrosion (I had to leave my firearms in an unconditioned outdoor storage shed for 3-years and when I got back there was Not a speck of corrosion). It performs well as a cleaner, and it dries to a slick, lubrication finish.
The only drawback I know of is that very few outlets seem to carry it on their shelves. I usually have to order online, usually from Brownells'.
The only drawback I know of is that very few outlets seem to carry it on their shelves. I usually have to order online, usually from Brownells'.
The Lone Haranguer
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The problem with "all-in-one" products like this is that they perform poorly in their individual functions as well as getting lube everywhere. I prefer to do my cleaning separately from my lubrication.
IMTHDUKE
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I'll just cut & paste from another post.
Being an ex Miltary Armorer, we used Break Free for cleaning, lubricating & preserving or CLP. We got it in gallon jugs. pints, 4oz bottles and .5oz bottles. I made sure every man had a .5oz bottle in his cleaning kit and told them to come back anytime for a refill. I strongly bieleve in it and so does the army. On WD-40 its good but not on firearms there was a police bulletin out on it, it appears officers used it on their firearms in rainy weather to keep them from rusting. Downside it penetrated the primer pocket past the sealant and inerted the primers. They found this out when an officer got into a shootout and his weapon went click click instead of bang bang. they disassembled the ammo and found the cause
Being an ex Miltary Armorer, we used Break Free for cleaning, lubricating & preserving or CLP. We got it in gallon jugs. pints, 4oz bottles and .5oz bottles. I made sure every man had a .5oz bottle in his cleaning kit and told them to come back anytime for a refill. I strongly bieleve in it and so does the army. On WD-40 its good but not on firearms there was a police bulletin out on it, it appears officers used it on their firearms in rainy weather to keep them from rusting. Downside it penetrated the primer pocket past the sealant and inerted the primers. They found this out when an officer got into a shootout and his weapon went click click instead of bang bang. they disassembled the ammo and found the cause
Break Free CLP
FP-10 (old formula)
Weapons Shield
All three are great CLP's. IMO, all do a great job at the L and P, but may need some additional help to get the C done with little effort. They can do it all, but there are better cleaners available.
I like using CLP regularly because they do the C function while I'm shooting the gun. Then all I need to do is clean with a good specific cleaner and put more CLP back on.
FP-10 (old formula)
Weapons Shield
All three are great CLP's. IMO, all do a great job at the L and P, but may need some additional help to get the C done with little effort. They can do it all, but there are better cleaners available.
I like using CLP regularly because they do the C function while I'm shooting the gun. Then all I need to do is clean with a good specific cleaner and put more CLP back on.
gun4funtime
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Breakfree CLP, is ok at best. I do take a small bottle in my range box. for the, just in case, I'll have something.
But it never sees my cleaning bench when I am at home to do the serious cleaning and lubrication.
It beats nothing , but not the "do all" some think it is? just my humble opinion.
But it never sees my cleaning bench when I am at home to do the serious cleaning and lubrication.
It beats nothing , but not the "do all" some think it is? just my humble opinion.
franconialocal
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LUBE
I may be the minority here, but I DON'T like Break Free CLP much at all. For me (personal opinion) it tends to remain WAY to thick and oily. It leaves an overly greasy feel on all but the best wiped down parts and tends to "travel" all over the place.
I do use Break Free CLP for the initial cleaning (by initial cleaning I take everything apart and spray a THIN coat and let it sit overnight to loosen eveything up), then a thorough clean with more of a solvent based cleaner, then final lube.
For final lube, I really like good ol' Rem Oil. It's light, clear, clean, and works in VERY small ammounts. I like a "drier" weapon (for comparison my buddy keeps his weapons SOAKED with oil...overboard I think) and Rem Oil suits this purpose well.
I work with an exposed weapon all the time in the elements, and other than an occ. touch up the Rem Oil holds up VERY well.
I may be the minority here, but I DON'T like Break Free CLP much at all. For me (personal opinion) it tends to remain WAY to thick and oily. It leaves an overly greasy feel on all but the best wiped down parts and tends to "travel" all over the place.
I do use Break Free CLP for the initial cleaning (by initial cleaning I take everything apart and spray a THIN coat and let it sit overnight to loosen eveything up), then a thorough clean with more of a solvent based cleaner, then final lube.
For final lube, I really like good ol' Rem Oil. It's light, clear, clean, and works in VERY small ammounts. I like a "drier" weapon (for comparison my buddy keeps his weapons SOAKED with oil...overboard I think) and Rem Oil suits this purpose well.
I work with an exposed weapon all the time in the elements, and other than an occ. touch up the Rem Oil holds up VERY well.
A home-made alternative that works well and is much, much more economical is called "Ed's Red." Works well, especially if you shoot quite a bit and go through lots of cleaner. Equal parts Kerosene, Acetone, ATF, and Mineral Spirits. Google it for reviews and comments.
If you are going to slather it around a lot on wood-stocked arms, you might omit the acetone as it will eat on the finish if you aren't careful and leave it on the wood.
The ATF is what gives it great lubricating properties. I think that's what Grant Cunningham recommends, to.
If you are going to slather it around a lot on wood-stocked arms, you might omit the acetone as it will eat on the finish if you aren't careful and leave it on the wood.
The ATF is what gives it great lubricating properties. I think that's what Grant Cunningham recommends, to.
RON in PA
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I've been using CLP since it first came to the market in the 1970s, works fine for me.
It's not the best cleaner, but actually, Breakfree CLP was something like the 2nd or 3rd best at protecting against corrosion (Eezox was the best), and was something like #6 as a lubricant in a test someone else did (FP-10 was the best for that).
But Eezox was a terrible lube, and FP-10 was a terrible protectant. Also, strangely, Breakfree LP was poorer at both tasks than CLP.
CLP will definitely get 'er done.
Rust testing - http://www.thegunzone.com/rust.html
- http://www.6mmbr.com/corrosiontest.html
Eh, can't seem to find the one that tested how good of a lube various gun oils were.
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Speaking of tests and objective views, here's Grant Cunningham's take on lubricants. If you aren't familiar with him, check out his work and writing. One of the better and more objective voices out there. He has no financial stake or holding to any advertiser or maker, which is what makes it refreshing to read his views on handguns, gunsmithing, etc.
On Lubricants:
http://grantcunningham.com/lubricants101.html
On Lubricants:
http://grantcunningham.com/lubricants101.html
franconialocal
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Thanks!!
Thanks for the link...very informative
Thanks for the link...very informative
franconialocal
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That's funny.....
It was refreshing to see Mr. Cunningham refer to good ol' 3 in 1 oil as the "old stand by", in so many words.
Not to get too misty eyed.....but for YEARS my grandfather (died back in 1992) touted the benefits of "3 in 1" for EVERYTING to d0 with metal cleaning, storage, restoration, sharpening.....
Just look at the little picutes lining the bottle for G'd's sake.....and yup...that was my Grandfather
His axes to store and sharpen (whet stone).......3 in 1 oil
His mower blades.....3 in 1 oil
His firearms....3 in 1 oil
He was a clock smith......3 in 1 oil
on, and on, and on..... Damn.....I'm gettin' all choked up!!!!
It was refreshing to see Mr. Cunningham refer to good ol' 3 in 1 oil as the "old stand by", in so many words.
Not to get too misty eyed.....but for YEARS my grandfather (died back in 1992) touted the benefits of "3 in 1" for EVERYTING to d0 with metal cleaning, storage, restoration, sharpening.....
Just look at the little picutes lining the bottle for G'd's sake.....and yup...that was my Grandfather
His axes to store and sharpen (whet stone).......3 in 1 oil
His mower blades.....3 in 1 oil
His firearms....3 in 1 oil
He was a clock smith......3 in 1 oil
on, and on, and on..... Damn.....I'm gettin' all choked up!!!!
Prepster, I swear by Gunzilla as well. In addition to the benefits you mentioned, it's non static (doesn't attract dust) and keeps heat down during rapid fire.
I haven't tested it, but heard from the mfr that due to the latter property, it's safe to use on a MK 19.
I haven't tested it, but heard from the mfr that due to the latter property, it's safe to use on a MK 19.
Rampant_Colt
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I'm old school
I still clean barrels with Hoppe's 9 and lube using 10w30 motor oil
I've no use for "multi-use" firearm products that cost a $ fortune $
+1 for Ed's Red
I still clean barrels with Hoppe's 9 and lube using 10w30 motor oil
I've no use for "multi-use" firearm products that cost a $ fortune $
+1 for Ed's Red
Gunslinger93
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I use Remington shotgun cleaner on all of my guns which does a great job, and i also use Rem Oil. Great prices on each product
I use the same stuff. However, I still put a touch of grease on the slide rails.
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