Am I a sissy or something?

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Big 5 sporting goods has had mosin nagants for sale lately, and in the past three weeks, I picked up a m44 and a 91/30, and a tin of cheap ammo for them from ammoman. I've only put one pack of ammo through each of them (20rds?), but I had one round with the m44 that I had to pry the bolt open by using my car for leverage. With the long mosin, I had to hit the bolt on rocks and stuff about 3 out of every 5 rounds to unload it. Half the time the empty case would be stuck in the chamber too, and I would have to shove the cleaning rod down the barrel really hard to get it out.

Even when these guns don't completely freeze up, I still have to smack the bolt really hard to chamber another round. I know mosins are one of the most widely used and combat proven weapons of all time, but I can't see any normal sized dude being able to even shoot one of these things in the prone position with the effort required to work the bolt sometimes. Both of my mosins are imported by century, and I know they have a bad rep for messing up AKs (I have a romanian SAR-1 that works excellent though), but is there something they've done to these rifles when they import them that makes them so difficult to use?

Other than the excessive cosmoline crap getting all over me everytime I handle them, these guns are the best deal going for the money without a doubt, I just wish the bolt wasn't so screwed up. Up until just recently, I always thought milsurps were pretty lame. I sold a Mauser last year, and kinda regret it now. There was a Hakim I missed out on at a local gunstore recently too that I wish I would've had the money for. Two mosins will be enough for me I think, but I seen some enfields at the gunshow this weekend, and I think I might have to get one of those crude looking things eventually too.

So am I just too weak and sissified to be trying to shoot the mighty Mosin Nagant? Or did Russian soldiers have to take a time out inbetween shots at Germans during Stalingrad to hit the bolt of their rifles on a slab of concrete to open the bolt, then spend another couple of minutes unscrewing the cleaning rod and using it to get the empty shell out of the chamber everytime?

Also, if this question has already been asked before I apologize, the mosin thread is 24 pages long, and I have the attention span of a gnat.
 
I think it's a fairly common problem, but if you use them and clean the cosmo off, you might get better results. And yes, I would not be very happy if Heinrich was chasing down the street and my mosin wouldn't open up :uhoh:

HB
 
the russians issue their people relaible rifles you gotta give em that

but now the design is over a hundred years old most of these rifles have been sitting in cosmo for 50+ years (except the 2 in my family we got bring backs :))

these rifles never would have been fielded if they did that in the begining
 
Jeez, ya weenie!;)

Yeah, it's cosmoline still in the chamber, or surplus ammo with a lacquer coating, or both. Put a brass brush for a 20 gauge shotgun on a cleaning rod, chuck it up in a drill, and scrub out the chamber real good.
 
Take the stock off and spray some easy off oven cleaner all over the metal parts. Nothing works as well as Easy Off on the metal parts. After you let it soak in easy off for about 10 minutes take a shower with it. All clean.
 
You brought two Mosins to the range, and you didn't use either one to unjam the other? :scrutiny:

Use one Mosin to open and close the bolt of of the other, if you need to. One of the best repair tools for a Mosin is a second Mosin. Hammer with one, shoot with the other. :D
 
Just noticed your screen name:). I've bought a Moisin or two from that Coos Bay Big-5 myself. Looks like others have given you great advice already.

I guess I'm a bit of a sissy when it come to Moisin-Nagants, because I have found that I strongly prefer the Czech hollow-core practice ammo; no kick!:D
 
Mosins have a lower bolt camming ratio than many other rifles such as Mausers, as a result, they are more likely to suffer from sticky bolts. Additionally, when refurbised, the chambers may have become contaminated with bluing agents, making them rough. Clean and polish the chamber lightly and you will see a significant improvement in function.
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As was mentioned already, com-block ammo generally has a lacquer coating and that stuff comes off of chambered rounds and tends to pack up in the rifle's chamber. Especially after the chamber/barrel heats up. I solved this problem by chucking up my cleaning rod in a drill and using a .410 brass brush and paint solvent(IIRC, it was mineral spirits) and went to town on that chamber. It looked clean before I started, but, it was amazing what came out of there after a few minutes of running that drill. :what:
After getting all of that stuck on crap out, the rifle cycled the way Mosin and Nagant intended. :D
 
All I did was pour a great deal of boiling water over and through the metal parts of both Mosins the first time I disassembled them. When I finally got them both to the range for extended sessions, neither suffered from a stuck bolt even when the bore and chamber were so hot that the remaining cosmo left deep inside the stock was boiling to the surface.

You might try that before you start getting too elaborate. :)
 
Other than the excessive cosmoline crap getting all over me everytime I handle them, these guns are the best deal going for the money without a doubt,

Am I to assume you didnt clean your gun before firing it? :what:

count your blessings if you did, grease in the chamber can cause excessive pressure. Disassemble it and do a thorough cleaning, that should solve alot of your problem. For metal parts I find that the best way to get off preservation grease is to boil them in water for about 10 minutes then pull them out, the grease melts away while boiling, and if the metal is left in there for that long then it gets hot enough so when you take the metal out, the remaining water in the cracks evaporates instantly, so you dont have the risk of rusting. Then clean the barrel with whatever flavor cleaner you fancy, grease the bolt lug tracks, and you should be good.
 
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