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An acquaintance told me that he was told at a coyote hunting clinic that in the 'west' coyotes carry off young childen (he said babies) but we never hear about it in the midwest. Are there any authenticated attacks on humans by coyotes?

Go ahead and have your pleasure at my expense but I would like to hear what you have to say westerners (or anybody else for that matter).
 
Never actually heard about a yote carrying off a child, but once while my wife and I were camping, she went for a walk and when she returned told me there was a pack following her. I thought she had lost her mind, but when I walked out where she had been, sure enough, there were tracks. Although not very big-she would stretch to make 5' tall, I would have guessed by the sign I found that at least 8 doggies were tracking her.
 
Delmar,

Was it coyotes or feral dogs that your wife saw?

When I lived in Illiinois I used to hunt alot in southern Ill in the national forest. There were alot of feral dogs running in packs and they would follow you but wouldn't approach although I wouldn't want to bet the ranch that they would keep their distance if you were injured/disabled. It was disconcerting the way they would follow you; they would fan out and flank you as well as follow. One seldom saw them but you could hear them running in the leaves.
 
They were coyotes, sure enough. Saw a couple of them in the distance, trotting away, which surprised me. How's the hunting in southern Ill? My grandmother lived in Mt Vernon-cousins in Carbondale, and we used to go down there sometimes at Christmas. Would go over to Delwood area to kick up some bunnies-saw some huge deer there back in the 60's, but never got there for the season.
 
I haven't lived there for over twenty years. The coyote, deer, goose, duck upland game was great. Turkey was just getting started then and was a long shot proposition. We used to hunt geese alot just a few miles south of Carbondale. Carbondale is a nice little town, used to drive up there alot when I was in college.
 
Those sure were the days-drove thru there a few years ago, and not all that much has changed. Looked like the same old places were still there.
 
it wouldn't surprise me at all that coyote would do that if given the chance. how many times it has happened over a period of time I can't say. a coyote is definitely not afraid of humans and it won't care what the easy meal is
 
I can see where an "around town" coyote would have lost most of any natural fear of people. "Boonies" coyotes are highly unlikely to bother anybody.

A solo child, four to five years or less in age, if left alone in the boonies might well be attractive to coyotes, bobcats or panthers...

I agree with the line about hunting coyotes instilling a proper fear of humans. I note that most of the reported attacks are in areas where residential development encroaches on rural areas and habitat...

Art
 
Art's right of course. Any time you have wild animals living in close proximity to humans, you're going to have some encounters-- even squirrels. But add in that the animals are 25 to 40 lb predators, and there's the opportunity for a cross-wired encounter. It's sometimes amazing how urban a yodel dog will get-- A 'yote was seen just the other night running across our jail parking lot, which is pretty urban, to me. And we've heard about the coyote captured in Central Park.

I note that just about all attacks are non-fatal, and are perpetrated on little kids.
 
Someone posted this on the forum a while back



http://www.sdcounty.ca.gov/awm/docs/coyoteattacks.pdf

COYOTE ATTACKS: AN INCREASING SUBURBAN PROBLEM

Introduction Coyote (Canis latrans) attacks on humans, once thought to be rare, have increased in frequency over the past decade. In expanding suburban areas such as those found in several counties in Southern California, residential developments are often near steep, brushy wildland areas. Coyotes inhabiting such wildlands are drawn into suburban landscaped environments that can support an abundance of rodents and rabbits, and where they can utilize water sources, pet food, household refuse, and even house cats and small dogs as prey.
Our observations indicate that in the absence of harassment by residents, coyotes can lose their fear of people and come to associate humans with this safe, resource-rich environment. This problem is exacerbated by people who intentionally feed coyotes. In such situations, some coyotes have begun to act aggressively toward humans, chasing joggers and bicyclists, confronting people walking their dogs, and stalking small children.
We queried representatives of various federal, state, county, and city agencies as well as private wildlife control companies about coyote attacks on humans occurring in Southern California during the past three decades, giving particular attention to localities where such attacks previously had been verified (see Howell 1982, Baker and Timm 1998). From the information gathered, we now list 89 coyote attacks in California (incidents when one or more coyotes made physical contact with a child or adult, or attacked a pet while in close proximity to its owner) (Table 1). In 56 of these attacks, one or more persons suffered an injury (Figure 1). In 77 additional encounters (not listed), coyotes stalked children, chased individuals, or aggressively threatened adults. In 35 incidents (not all listed), where coyotes stalked or attacked small children, the possibility of serious or fatal injury seems likely if the child had not been rescued. Because no single agency maintains data on such attacks, and some agencies and organizations are reluctant to discuss such incidents, we recognize that we do not have data on all attacks that have occurred.
We also questioned representatives of agencies and private firms about the results of their corrective and preventive actions taken in relation to coyote attacks. We summarize and discuss this information as a contribution toward improved strategies to deal with this wildlife-human conflict....


*Presented at 69th North American Wildlife and Natural Resources Conference, Spokane, WA, March 16-20, 2004.
 
i was going to say dingo too..

i usedto live near westwood in LA ... the coyotes woke me up one night fighting over some frenchfries ( i checked out the park in the morning). There were quite a few of them.
 
I've never heard of a coyote carrying off a child, but back as a Marine in the early 90's we had an "incident" out at 29 Palms. The spring of 92 was a real odd year rain-wise. We ended up with approximately 6 times the normal rain that year and EVERYTHING was turning green out there. As a result, the rabbit and prarie dog populations exploded and after about a 4 or 5 month delay, so did the coyote population. The next year, everything was back to normal on rain. The rabbit and prarie dog populations dropped dramatically, and the coyotes started getting hungry. Up to that point, thanks to a local woman on the city council, it was illegal to shoot coyotes in the area except under special permit (never once heard of that permit being granted). This woman had even complained to the base Public Affairs Officer when word got out that a pack of coyotes had been killed when they wandered onto a live fire range during a "Heavy Guns" (M2HBs and Mk19s mounted on HMMWVs) training exercise. (I happened to be there to see that one, and 1 word sums up the result. HAMBURGER)

Well, lo and behold, the councilwoman's cat was sitting in her window one day looking through the screen. A coyote came into the yard, tore through the screen, grabbed the cat, and headed for the hills.

2 weeks later, not only was it legal to shoot coyotes again in the City of 29 Palms, but the town was actually offering a small bounty on them.
 
That sounds like Pendleton too bro. I was on 43 area guard in January of 1994. Since I was on post during chow, they would bring a plate of food and a replacement so the sentry could eat. Well Im eating, and after about 10 minutes myself, the Cpl of the Guard and my relief have a pack of about 10 or so Coyotes barking at us from about 50 ft. they then started to move in closer. The Cpl of the guard was freaking, got on the radio and called the guard shack asking for permission to shoot them if they got too close. of course this was denied but we could buttstroke em if neccessary. LOL. They finally went away, probably to raid some dumpsers and trash barrels.

BTW the food I was eating Was unfit for coyote consumption forget human consumption but you know how that works, chow hall food.
 
We have lots of coyotes in Dallas/Fort Worth area. I live in an area with some open land around it, and I see coyotes regularly, and hear them just about every night.

I've heard about them snacking on house pets, but never attacking a human.

Too bad they don't eat grackles.
 
An acquaintance told me that he was told at a coyote hunting clinic that in the 'west' coyotes carry off young childen (he said babies) but we never hear about it in the midwest.
IF true, why would you leave a baby unattended where a coyote could carry them off? :rolleyes:
 
IF true, why would you leave a baby unattended where a coyote could carry them off?

Uh, I donno, maybe you are prolife and don't like the outcome? :D Why do people leave their children and pets in locked cars with the windows rolled up in the summer - maybe because there are a lot of stupid people walking around free.
 
Quote: "Too bad they don't eat grackles."

I'm sure they do when not already full with normal diet and/or soccor mom's "Fluffy".

Sadly, the grackles breed a lot faster.
 
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