BLACKHAWKNJ
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I visited the NYPD Museum 50 years ago, recall an exhibit which said they switched from 32 to 38 caliber in the 1890s, found the 32s lacked stopping power.
Teddy Roosevelt, then Police Commissioner issued the first standard revolver, a Colt in 1895 in .32. Along with it came standard training. Was a while before the .38 Special came into service. The .32 stayed around for quite a while though. Was not uncommon to see someone’s grandfathers duty or off duty gun in .32. Different times and mentality. Early on revolvers were not even displayed they were pocket carried in reinforced uniform pants pockets with leather pouch pocket holsters. Not sure about today but in mine the wool dress choker uniform was still made with heavy canvass pockets on the choker “reefer” coat and the wool uniform dress pants for that reason.I visited the NYPD Museum 50 years ago, recall an exhibit which said they switched from 32 to 38 caliber in the 1890s, found the 32s lacked stopping power.
Whether the industry decides to actually try to help support the caliber or just keep running off 9mm because it's a cash cow is another thing entirely. As it stands after 9mm the gun makers seems more interested in 5.7, however the ammo makers haven't been following and in the case of Federal decided to do .30 Super.
One thing is certain: the 5.7 is never going into a P365 type of pistol while .30 Super absolutely will and when the slim doublestacks like the 365 are what are selling, the demand for .30 Super will be higher than 5.7 will.
So maybe, just maybe the .32 is breathing new life. I don't think that will translate to revolvers, revolvers are losing popularity fast, but for autoloaders the .30 Super may not be be a thing in the 2020's, but could find itself roaring come the 2030s.
Hell, Taurus should make a .30 Super with that name: Roaring 30.
Leave .32 out of it, revolvers are what "should" be more popular than where they are now. The consumer has responded tho and all they care about in a handgun is capacity and cheap, common ammo in a conceable pistol that doesn't have too much recoil, but meets FBI specs.IMHO, 32 revolvers "should" be more popular than they are.
For someone who is not a "gun person" and doesn't tolerate recoil well, it's a far better choice than 9mm, 38, 380, 22, etc.
25ACP revolver?
S&W 'M' frame with half moon clips?
I went to BAM! (Books A Million) and bought them. Worth it.I wish I could read those (complete) articles.
I did find some articles at shootingtimes.com, but the handloader one, I'm not sure it's available online...
Hey, Old Hobo, you actually have that original Colt pump? Wow!
Handled a replica in .45 Colt; local shop had it, thot' the price too high, and tried to wait it out 'till the price went down. That hardly ever works for me...
Anyway, neat carbine.
Moon
Wow, thank You for saving me a bunch of money!Re: the .30 Super, ammo is being sold on sale relatively inexpensively if AIM is any indicator. Either AIM justs wants to get rid of it because it isn't selling, or the ammo companies are giving incentives, trying to increase interest in it. In any case, AIM has two brands of it on sale at $14.95 a box of 50, same as 9mm. There is certainly no economy of scale on .30 Super, so that's very cheap.
https://aimsurplus.com/products/remington-umc-30-super-carry-100gr-fmj
I want to find a revolver that shoots .32 ACP!
Wouldn't it be awesome to have a .32 ACP revolver that uses moon clips?
32 ACP in a 327 Mag chamber is a HUGE jump to the cone; it wouldn’t accurate. Like shooting 45 Colt in a 410 revolver.If .32 ACP works in a H&R Magnum or .327 Pistol go for it. Only problem I see is the lighter bullets. Keep them out of the .32 Long guns though. 20,000 vas 15,000 PSI max, don’t ruin a cool old gun.
Also, Everyone, AimSurplus is a fine company to deal with.Re: the .30 Super, ammo is being sold on sale relatively inexpensively if AIM is any indicator. Either AIM justs wants to get rid of it because it isn't selling, or the ammo companies are giving incentives, trying to increase interest in it. In any case, AIM has two brands of it on sale at $14.95 a box of 50, same as 9mm. There is certainly no economy of scale on .30 Super, so that's very cheap.
https://aimsurplus.com/products/remington-umc-30-super-carry-100gr-fmj
So is the .32 S&W in a Long, H&R or .327 but they work. I don’t see the need to shoot .32 ACP in any of them other than knowing if they can in an emergency. Good to have options but like I said be careful in the old .32 Long guns as the pressures are a bit different.32 ACP in a 327 Mag chamber is a HUGE jump to the cone; it wouldn’t accurate. Like shooting 45 Colt in a 410 revolver.
That “semi-rimless” case is a bit wonky for a wheelgun.So is the .32 S&W in a Long, H&R or .327 but they work. I don’t see the need to shoot .32 ACP in any of them other than knowing if they can in an emergency. Good to have options but like I said be careful in the old .32 Long guns as the pressures are a bit different.
Smith and Wesson J frames will do it. I have done it a few times from my 30-1 but it’s not incredibly accurate. Seems to have enough freebore to adversely effect both accuracy and power. Dirtiest thing I have ever shot that’s not black powder. Likely because with that much blow-by it’s not building pressure to get great combustion which is a recipe for poor shooting and dirty guns.I want to find a revolver that shoots .32 ACP!
I think it has some to do with lighter faster jacketed bullets in guns that like lead. Neither of my revolvers like the 71 RNL as much as 85 grain and all prefer 98 to that. I am sure freebore has something to do with it but in some guns the .32 S&W will shoot just fine in .32 S&W Long revolvers. I think it’s an gun by gun situation. Ultimately it wasn’t made to go there but always good to know if it can, you never know.Smith and Wesson J frames will do it. I have done it a few times from my 30-1 but it’s not incredibly accurate. Seems to have enough freebore to adversely effect both accuracy and power. Dirtiest thing I have ever shot that’s not black powder. Likely because with that much blow-by it’s not building pressure to get great combustion which is a recipe for poor shooting and dirty guns.
Leave .32 out of it, revolvers are what "should" be more popular than where they are now. The consumer has responded tho and all they care about in a handgun is capacity and cheap, common ammo in a conceable pistol that doesn't have too much recoil, but meets FBI specs.
…Good to have options but like I said be careful in the old .32 Long guns as the pressures are a bit different.