Ammo prices 75% off soon
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Rossshady120
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wal-mart ammo prices have bin the same since like the day they opened up lol. rolledback since 94
RockyMtnTactical
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Don't expect prices to come down much if at all...
Aran
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There have been at least 3-4 price jumps in the last six months at WalMart on ammo.
mljdeckard
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Sure. Just like gas will go down 75% if the price of the raw supply drops 75%.
It costs money to make ammo, box ammo, ship ammo, pay taxes, etc.
Even if the raw materials were free, ammo wouldn't be free.
Therefore, while a huge drop in raw materials prices is a great thing, one wouldn't expect to see the retail price of the finished product drop as much as the cost of the raw materials.
Even if the raw materials were free, ammo wouldn't be free.
Therefore, while a huge drop in raw materials prices is a great thing, one wouldn't expect to see the retail price of the finished product drop as much as the cost of the raw materials.
K3
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For some reloaders, the savings is irrelevant. For most, since we end up shooting more, loading more, and buying more crap we think we need (read want), we're not saving a dime.
I feel really good about the quality and accuracy of my ammo though. I don't care if .300WM drops to $15 a box for good hunting ammo. I'll still roll my own.
moooose102
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+1 ! I Loader up 100 rounds of 380 this afternoon. but all the junk that i "had to have" that i really didnt "need" certainly ate up most of the savings. i have enough stuff to do the job, and more to make it conveinient. but, if it is a royal pita, who would do it? it would be really nice if ammo prices come down, along with a lot of other prices. it would really be nice to have some extra play money at the end of the month.
Keep in mind that most makers of ammo and componants buy their metals from a distributor. They are not likely to see major cheap inventory unless the metals market remains depressed fro more than 90 days.
Even then, don't expect much price drop until their production facilities fall below full capacity. They are currently full tilt, and don't really want to make changes that will increase demand that they can't supply.
Once they start having inventory pile up and metal prices are down, prices will fall.
As far as reloading, componants prices fluctuate just like ammo prices.
When I started reloading .45 in 2001, the price difference between my loads and retail was about 50% (i.e. mine cost 50% of retail). Now it is about 48%. The big difference is back then, amortizing the cost of the reloading equipment took about 10,000 rounds. Now it would take about 3-4k.
Even then, don't expect much price drop until their production facilities fall below full capacity. They are currently full tilt, and don't really want to make changes that will increase demand that they can't supply.
Once they start having inventory pile up and metal prices are down, prices will fall.
As far as reloading, componants prices fluctuate just like ammo prices.
When I started reloading .45 in 2001, the price difference between my loads and retail was about 50% (i.e. mine cost 50% of retail). Now it is about 48%. The big difference is back then, amortizing the cost of the reloading equipment took about 10,000 rounds. Now it would take about 3-4k.
Until there is a build-up in inventory, prices won't be dropping soon.
In recessions, neither manufacturers nor retailers accumulate inventory because of cost fears and inability to sell. Retailers will be afraid to order too much, nor will they discount their on-hand supplies.
Doubt your scenario will happen unless we completely skedaddle from Iraq & Afghanistan. Then you will see Mil-spec ammo slowly unloaded as surplus. Good for people who buy by the case (me), but it won't be re-packaged as commercial retail ammo.
In recessions, neither manufacturers nor retailers accumulate inventory because of cost fears and inability to sell. Retailers will be afraid to order too much, nor will they discount their on-hand supplies.
Doubt your scenario will happen unless we completely skedaddle from Iraq & Afghanistan. Then you will see Mil-spec ammo slowly unloaded as surplus. Good for people who buy by the case (me), but it won't be re-packaged as commercial retail ammo.
rcmodel
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I have a bridge for sale I'd like to talk to you about.
Oh! And there really is an Easter Bunny, and Santa Claus is real too!
I have been involved in shooting for about 58 of my 65 years.
Never have I ever seen ammo prices come down!
rcmodel
Oh! And there really is an Easter Bunny, and Santa Claus is real too!
I have been involved in shooting for about 58 of my 65 years.
Never have I ever seen ammo prices come down!
rcmodel
Chucklej1
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I hope that it does come down. I just don't see it happening. Dick's had a killer sale last week though(Buy one get one half off). Also, the Remington coupon helps to save a bit.
rcmodel said:
By the time the production stocks come in to warrant a price drop, massive inflation is going to hit the American Economy as round 2 of the "economic crisis" sets in, so the prices will not be coming down.
Do not sell what you have. Package it for storage (in ammo boxes) and buy more... Buy more food and clothing.
Vern Humphrey
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Then we better have a lot of ammo stocked up, because something very nasty will follow them home.
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Interesting. Gasoline is $2.04 today. It was $2.08 yesterday, $2.19 last weekend, and $3.09 about 1.5 months ago.
Hopefully the ammo price fall will be just as precipitous.
Hopefully the ammo price fall will be just as precipitous.
Tacbandit
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Quote by shdwfx:
"There's probably enough folks stocking up for fear of the Obamination to keep prices inflated, regardless of the plummeting materials costs. If I'm in the ammo business, no need to lower my prices until sales slow down."
+1, shdwfx...I'm one those people stocking up...
I wouldn't go trying to dump everything you've got stockpiled
just yet. It's too unstable to assume anything right now...
Cornman, you could be right..however, the political situation being was it is(or isn't), I wouldn't move too far in either direction just yet..
"There's probably enough folks stocking up for fear of the Obamination to keep prices inflated, regardless of the plummeting materials costs. If I'm in the ammo business, no need to lower my prices until sales slow down."
+1, shdwfx...I'm one those people stocking up...
I wouldn't go trying to dump everything you've got stockpiled
just yet. It's too unstable to assume anything right now...
Cornman, you could be right..however, the political situation being was it is(or isn't), I wouldn't move too far in either direction just yet..
Prices will come down significantly, but not 75%. Don't kid yourself, ammo isn't immune from the same market forces that are driving down gas prices, such as reduction in raw materials costs, and decreasing demand.
Over the last couple years ammo prices have spiked, and most shooters I know are using less ammo and shooting more rimfire to stretch their dollars out. With raw materials and transportation prices falling, ammo prices will follow, but it will take some time. Remember that ammo manufacturers buy their raw materials on contract, and the ammo you will see on the shelf in the near future was produced at a price point based on the old contract. It will take a little bit of time for the price drops to filter down.
When you factor in the overall crappiness of the economy and people watching their 401ks and IRAs vaporize, I'd guarantee demand is down as well. Once the fat government contracts dry up for the ammunition manufacturers now that Iraq is getting quieter, you will really see prices drop as manufacturers try to keep excess plant capacity busy.
Oh yeah, and if people would stop ooohing and ahhing over a $350 case of 5.56, that would help prices come down as well. I refuse to pay that much for 5.56. Until prices come down, I'll make do with reloading cast bullets for my .45 ACP handguns, and shooting rimfire.
Over the last couple years ammo prices have spiked, and most shooters I know are using less ammo and shooting more rimfire to stretch their dollars out. With raw materials and transportation prices falling, ammo prices will follow, but it will take some time. Remember that ammo manufacturers buy their raw materials on contract, and the ammo you will see on the shelf in the near future was produced at a price point based on the old contract. It will take a little bit of time for the price drops to filter down.
When you factor in the overall crappiness of the economy and people watching their 401ks and IRAs vaporize, I'd guarantee demand is down as well. Once the fat government contracts dry up for the ammunition manufacturers now that Iraq is getting quieter, you will really see prices drop as manufacturers try to keep excess plant capacity busy.
Oh yeah, and if people would stop ooohing and ahhing over a $350 case of 5.56, that would help prices come down as well. I refuse to pay that much for 5.56. Until prices come down, I'll make do with reloading cast bullets for my .45 ACP handguns, and shooting rimfire.
jnyork
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