an all around gun for me....

which all around 308

  • Scout Squad

    Votes: 17 38.6%

  • AR-10 (please specify which one in post)

    Votes: 12 27.3%

  • Other (please specify)

    Votes: 15 34.1%
  • Total voters
    44
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If you could only have one gun for shtf, hunting, target, and plinking what would it be? I I would chose the AR-10 or the Scout Squad however I am having a very hard time deciding between the two the Scout Squad definantly looks better but its nearly impossible to mount a decent optic without spending 400-600 dollars on a mount. This is where I believe the AR-10 has a huge advantage plus ar's tend to be from what I have seen more accurate (accuracy is very important to me) that the M1A's.

As of right now I am leaning towards an AR-10 however, I am lost as to who makes good ones armalite seems to make good ones relatively cheap but I have no experience with one

Also if you have an AR-10 or Scout Squad I would love to see some pictures of groups etc.
 
Well you other options of that nature is the FN FAL or the Saiga in .308. Are you interested in the SOCOM 16? so anyways I vote for the M1A type.
 
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OR, upgrade to a MK14 :evil:

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AR variant.

Rock River LAR-8 if you can find one - good luck. I emailed them last week and they said they are now filling backorders from February 2006.

DPMS, any of the 16" models, if price is an issue.

Armalite AR10A4 carbine if price is not an issue - compared to DPMS it has forged receivers (both upper and lower) and a chrome lined barrel, all of which are good for durability. However it uses special mags that cost more and are less common. It also won't necessarily have any greater accuracy than the DPMS. I'm generally a fan of Armalite quality though.
 
I'm trying to decide if I want to go to an M-4 variant that shoots either a 6.5 Grendel or a 6.8 SPC cartridge. I like the ergonomics of the M-4 but I feel like I would rather eventually have a heavier bullet than a .223 which is why I'm looking at those two options. More and more I keep leaning towards the 6.5 Grendel because of its accuracy so I'm still trying to decide which one I'll go with in the long run. I've waivered more on this issue than a Democratic presidential candidate on gun control so that will tell you how hard it has been for me to decide which one to get. Any way, if I go with one I think that I'll also go with an ACOG or Aimpoint ML-4 or ML-5 red dot scope on my general purpose rifle. I think that the heavier bullet will let me defend myself or drop feral game like deer and pigs for the dinner table with equal ability.
 
I've waivered more on this issue than a Democratic presidential candidate on gun control so that will tell you how hard it has been for me to decide which one to get.
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So you're saying that you've had an unwaivering conviction of what you really want to do, but you're just not going to tell anyone that, and you're going to pander to each different audience?

:)

Ammo costs are a big issue for both 6.8 SPC and 6.5 G. The Wolf Gold ammo for 6.5 G is now making that round a much more viable option if you like to shoot and aren't filthy rich. Maybe someday there will be affordable ammo in 6.8 SPC as well. For now .308 Win is cheaper than either one, though only a little cheaper than Wolf 6.5 G.
 
H2O MAN I have thought about what you are proposing there and if I had lots of money I would by the Mk14. I just dont have the cash to do the conversion to an evil scout squad I would really like to thought. saiga 308 isn't accurate enough. The socom is cool but I don't really see any differance between the two except cost plus the socom parts dont interchange with any other M1As
 
Saiga .308 actually gets fairly good reviews for accuracy. I've toyed with buying one, but what's holding me back is:
1) Parts - it's a unique design. Our relationship with Russia is cooling very fast. I don't think anyone else's parts (trunion, bolt, bcg, etc.) will fit it.
2) Magazines. RAA provides an 8-rd magazine. There are only two companies I know of making larger capacity magazines. Both get decent reviews, but sell in the range of $40-50 a piece, and both are all polymer designs. I would rather have metal.
3) 922(r) compliance. Sure, it can be done without too much difficulty, but starts pushing the price of a compliant gun up toward the price of a DPMS AR in .308, which takes cheaper, more widely available mags that are made of metal, and doesn't have any 922(r) considerations.

The PTR-91 might also be worth a look. You can mount a scope on it, but the scope mount will run $150 or so (based on current CDNN price). It also has 922(r) as a consideration, but is sold fully compliant and doesn't need any mods. G3 mags are cheap and widely available. The PTR is not friendly to reloading, however.
 
N1150X H2O MAN I have thought about what you are proposing there and if I had lots of money I would by the Mk14. I just dont have the cash to do the conversion to an evil scout squad I would really like to though
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Understood.

My one and only M1A (SAI Scout) was purchased when my money was tight.
Things changed for the better a couple years later so I went for my 1st MK14 conversion.

My point: Invest in the platform that you really want and upgrade as needed as funds become available.
Also, if you really want an M14 - I suggest a slightly used Norinco or Poly Tech that you can shoot now and upgrade as needed later.

Good luck.
 
Other, for hunting, target shooting, plinking etc.....Go with a Remington 700 in .308......They are less expensive than what you are looking at, and optics easily mount. They are just as or more accurate and you can trick them out..... Less expensive to shoot at the range because they are not semi auto and you actually have to thing each shot through.
 
nearly impossible to mount a decent optic without spending 400-600 dollars on a mount
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M1A's have pretty durn good iron sights if you ask me. It seems to me that if you can't shoot iron sights, it's probably because you can't see or never bothered to learn/practice. Not saying you're blind or unskilled, but you don't have to worry about the batteries running out when the zombies attack. Also, depending on local laws you may not be able to hunt with a red dot, assuming that's what you had in mind. If it is a scope you want for optics, you can get a M1A Loaded with the scope rail IIRC.
 
Nothing wrong with a semi-auto .308 but I don't really see that type of a rifle as an "all around" rifle.
To me, those are semi-auto battle rifles that can be pressed into service for hunting.
An all around rifle would be kind of like a big handgun - you carry it with you with no particular intentions. It needs to be handy enough to go in and out of vehicles easily and light enough that you can carry it a lot without discomfort. It needs to be powerful enough to stop any threats that you're likely to run into. Ammo needs to be available.
For me, that works out to a Marlin 30-30.
For some, that may be a .45-70 if they need to stop something bigger.
I'd say that a lightened, carbine version of an M1A, FAL, or something of that type may fit this description. A good case could be made for a bolt, pump, or lever action .243, 7mm-08, or .308 as well.

At this point in my life though, after having owned AK's, AR's, SKS's, and FAL's, I have to say that I'm very impressed with the little Marlin lever gun. If I had to pick a rifle that I'd carry with me every day for the rest of my life, it would be a lever action 30-30.
As it is now, I have gotten to the point that I don't feel comfortable taking the truck out in the woods without that rifle propped up on the seat.
And I've owned it for less than a month.

YMMV.
 
I'm with

Goon. I have a few rifles, but these two are never far away. I can reach this as we speak.

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Winchester 30-30


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Marlin 30-30 with a 4X.
 
but its nearly impossible to mount a decent optic without spending 400-600 dollars on a mount.
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I think you hit the nail on the head as to which one is best and why, if you like a scope (unless you are rich then different story).
 
I was looking at a lever action 44 mag the other day and figured between that rifle and a good S&W 44mag revolver you'd be set for pretty much whatever.
 
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