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An Article on the Russian RKBA

Discussion in 'Legal' started by gazpacho, Jan 11, 2006.

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  1. gazpacho

    gazpacho Member

    May 28, 2004
    I stumbled across this article. It helps me keep my perspective when I read how the "other half" lives.

    By "gas pistol" I assume he means an air gun.
  2. ka50

    ka50 Member

    Nov 16, 2005
    Nah he means gas pistol with cartidges that are loaded with mace. The pistol goes "bang" and mace shoots out of the barrel.

    Back when I was in Russia my friend fired one at his apt... we had to go outside and you couldn't walk inside for an hour or so with all windows open. It's not a tool for self-defense, it's a make-me-feel-good joke.
  3. beerslurpy

    beerslurpy member

    Nov 8, 2004
    Spring Hill, Florida
    I heard that pepper rounds fired from a 12 gauge are quite entertaining. And by entertaining, I mean completely painful and never to be done in an enclosed space. I imagine it would be quite the crowd dispersal tool though.

    I'm glad the russians are finally waking up to the uselessness of the nanny-state. Still, a saiga should be more than enough for a burglar, though I would probably keep it next to my bed like the AK, and open up the magwell to take 40 rounders. It is not like the pissants in the government are going to measure the magwell.

    Also, are they trying to say that there isnt a black market availability of milspec 7.62x39 in russia? That is like having a shortage of black market cocaine in colombia.

    edit: I dont think he knows what he is talking about. A 7.62 saiga isnt a smoothbore rifle. Also, why would 7.62x39 be unreliable? That makes no sense whatsoever. Are the single stack mags crap?
  4. Lucky

    Lucky Member

    Jul 12, 2005
    Calgary, near Rocky Mountains - Canada
    It's good that he's trying, but I'm confused about "smoothbore hunting rifle". I have to assume he means shotguns, and it's a translation error? Otherwise, it sounds like some sort of factory oversight. "Hey Boris, Damnit, you forgot to put the rifling in these barrels!!! What the bejeezus were you thinking? Oh never mind, just print up some new labels..."

    Want REAL Russian-made home defence? http://rusarm.ru/p_prod/spfor/udar.htm That's a 12.3mm revolver with a variety of loadings available, including 'pyro-liquid' and shot. Talk about the ultimate Dutch load!
  5. AZRickD

    AZRickD Member

    Jun 16, 2003
    Support in da Dumas is lacking to move this forward, however.

  6. SSN Vet

    SSN Vet Member

    Jan 3, 2006
    The Dark Side of the Moon
    Not a very safe city

    My wife worked in Moscow for three years before we were married.

    It is a tough city of 12 million people....most all of whom live in apartment buildings. There only hope of home-defense is to install a HEAVY steel door with multiple robust dead bolts. Rule #1....NEVER open your door for anyone you didn't invite over.

    Lot's of stories of people being tricked into opening the door and then getting tied up, robbed and physically coerced into divulging ATM codes.

    If you ever go there ..... blend in!....because the basic assumption is that every westerner is a millionaire.

    The rule of law is pretty sketchy and organized crime runs rampant and unchecked. One source of the MOB's power.... of course....the only way to get a REAL fire arm is illegally .... so only criminals have guns.
  7. Firethorn

    Firethorn Member

    Feb 27, 2004
    While I had much the same thought when I read the article, it is indeed a translation goof. Words and concepts don't always exactly line up in different languages.

    They're translating a russian word as 'rifle' that would more accuratly translate as 'long gun'.

    As translation errors go, it's actually quite minor.
  8. Standing Wolf

    Standing Wolf Member in memoriam

    Dec 24, 2002
    Idahohoho, the jolliest state
    Surprise! Statist parasites are the same the world over.
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