Yeah like that grizzly man dude up in Alaska who though he was friends with the grizzlies and could speak to them. And then they ate him on camera.
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Yeah like that grizzly man dude up in Alaska who though he was friends with the grizzlies and could speak to them. And then they ate him on camera.
30 rounds of 5.56mm might stop a bear pretty well, depending on where and what got stitched up, but I'd +1 the previous comments about no way you'd get a full mag dumped with any semblance of accuracy before the bear closed the distance and commenced to mauling.
OMG It's 1980 again. WOW what a flash back. I was stationed in Alaska and my partner for the day wanted to shoot a moose with his duty rifle (M16). He had 120 rds. I just laughed and told him I would be back to pick up the pieces. He asked of the moose, and I stated NO you idiot of you, after the moose stomps your butt for ticking it off. But he says I have 120 rds and a full auto rifle. I said here are my 120 rds , now you have 240 rds. The moose is still going to stomp you. Hahahahahaha He finally decided it might not be a good idea. The rest of the flight thought it was funny and laughed at his dumb idea. I would rather shoot a moose with a 556 then a bear, but hey it's your life you are playing with. Now if had been carrying my M60 that day, I am sure one round would have done it. Thanks for the memories.
Luck is not what I count on. Steve Irwin thought the bears were his friends. I have no such brain disfunction. He took a camera, I carry very serious firepower. In fact, I just today got a new .50 caliber lever gun for this bear season.
Playing dead works on Grizzlies because the don't prefer fresh meat. if you are successful at playing dead (hard to do with a 1200 bear chewing on you) the bear will likely pee on you, cover you with leaves and wait for you to become nice and stinky.
I have seen it a few times with fresh animal kills.
I have seen it a few times with fresh animal kills.
a brownie can run at 35 mph thats 51 feet per sec. you might want to remove that front sight off that AR just in case you don't kill it, he will be pissed.
A .223 wont kill a bear, hahah!!
Tell that to inuit hunters, .223 is a cheap, common round and they hunt with them. Dont forget that inuits hunt polar bears, the biggest, strongest, and only carnivorous bear out there.
While it may not kill as fast as a .375, or a few others, dont believe the hype about needing a 105 mm howitzer to bring a bear down. Ive witnessed black bears, and deer being dropped from 300 meters with a .223.
Sure its good to carry something that inflicts a strong initial impact, but its also important what the bullet does after that impact, it displaces fluid, the small high velocity .223 and 5.56 rounds tumble, and break up while traveling through flesh. The result is a huge dose of displaced fluid, torn up muscle, and internal organs.
If your hunting a bear and want to save as much meat or organs as possible then you want a big heavy stable bullet, the bigger bullet will travel straight through and make a nice neat big puncture.
Unless you shoot a bear in the leg, or miss the midsection entirely with a .223 your going to inflict a fatal wound on a bear.
Remember they are living breathing mammals not armored mechanical tanks. If you shoot a bear in the right place with a .22 you can drop them.
Truthfully a shotgun will penetrate alot less, and do less damage by far internally than a .223.
Tell that to inuit hunters, .223 is a cheap, common round and they hunt with them. Dont forget that inuits hunt polar bears, the biggest, strongest, and only carnivorous bear out there.
While it may not kill as fast as a .375, or a few others, dont believe the hype about needing a 105 mm howitzer to bring a bear down. Ive witnessed black bears, and deer being dropped from 300 meters with a .223.
Sure its good to carry something that inflicts a strong initial impact, but its also important what the bullet does after that impact, it displaces fluid, the small high velocity .223 and 5.56 rounds tumble, and break up while traveling through flesh. The result is a huge dose of displaced fluid, torn up muscle, and internal organs.
If your hunting a bear and want to save as much meat or organs as possible then you want a big heavy stable bullet, the bigger bullet will travel straight through and make a nice neat big puncture.
Unless you shoot a bear in the leg, or miss the midsection entirely with a .223 your going to inflict a fatal wound on a bear.
Remember they are living breathing mammals not armored mechanical tanks. If you shoot a bear in the right place with a .22 you can drop them.
Truthfully a shotgun will penetrate alot less, and do less damage by far internally than a .223.
40 yds in 3 seconds. My experience. Didn't even have the revolver fully unholstered. Good thing he ran past me not at me. He got spooked by an ATV on the ridge. My knees were still uncontrollably shaking when I got back to the truck. You'd be lucky to get 1 shot off. People don't appreciate just how fast bears can move.
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You might want to check out these books. They are a good resource on what to do if attacked and how to avoid one. Also, these are the rounds I would carry in bear country. IMHO. All three are suggested by experienced bear hunters. The round on the left is a Garrett Cartridge .44 mag +P 330-GR SUPER-HARD-CAST GC LONG-HAMMERHEAD AT 1400-FPS, on the right is a BUFFALO BORE HEAVY 44 MAG +P+ 340 GR. L.B.T-L.F.N. G.C. AT 1533 FPS and the slug is REMINGTON BUCKHAMMER at 1550 FPS. And no, I'm not associated with any of the authors or ammo manufacturers; I'm just interested in back country travel. It goes without saying, practice, practice, practice. All of these rounds pack a big wallop (recoil).
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SHvar there is a big difference between killing a bear and stopping a charge as described by the initial post.
Inuit's used to kill bears with 22lr by putting them at bay with dogs and wading in and shooting them in the head and then running like hell. Sometimes it would take 4 or five times to get it done and normally cost several dogs.
Inuit's used to kill bears with 22lr by putting them at bay with dogs and wading in and shooting them in the head and then running like hell. Sometimes it would take 4 or five times to get it done and normally cost several dogs.
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