Another Lie Uncovered

[T-Bolt]

I am passing this on as information because we may not all hear about this due to the general media intentionally refusing to acknowledge, let alone report, such. Use this information if appropriate to inform your congresscritters what Obama and Bloomberg report is false.

Copied and edited for brevity.

The National Rifle Association Institute for Legislative Action conducted a national scientific poll of its members and found near unanimity among NRA members on a wide range of issues involving mental health reform and firearm rights.

Gun control advocates, including New York City Mayor Michael Bloomberg, as well as various media outlets, have released data claiming to represent the views of NRA members, despite the fact that none of those surveys had access to the NRA’s membership list.

“Mayor Bloomberg’s claims that gun owners are divided are totally false. It is nothing more than an attempt by anti-gun activists to further their long-standing political agenda.”

Key Findings:

•91% of NRA members support laws keeping firearms away from the mentally ill.
•92% of NRA members oppose gun confiscation via mandatory buy-back laws.
•89% oppose banning semi-automatic firearms, often mistakenly called “assault rifles”.
•93% oppose a law requiring gun owners to register with the federal government.
•92% oppose a new federal law banning the sale of firearms between private citizens.

The margin of error for this survey is +/- 3.09%.

 

[steelerdude99]

I am passing this on as information because we may not all hear about this due to the general media intentionally refusing to acknowledge, let alone report, such. Use this information if appropriate to inform your congresscritters what Obama and Bloomberg report is false.

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T-Bolt,
I’m not trying to defend mayor “whats his name”… but he is not lying, technically at least. He is not being truthful either. Because “92% of NRA members oppose gun confiscation via mandatory buy-back laws”, 92% is not 100%. Saying NRA members on this are divided on this topic is NOT an inaccurate statement. He’s implying it’s a close split; which it is not. A split decision in boxing is when 2 judges said boxer A won; 1 said boxer B won. It’s split; they’re divided.

chuck

 

[avs11054]

Where did this info come from? Why wasnt there a question about background checks. The fact that this question was not included i think would only hurt our case as it appears that we are tailoring the survey to our needs.

 

[06]

They are politicians are they not---then they are liars. Sorry to be so blunt but they have proved the point countless times.

 

[T-Bolt]

avs . . . You've put me on the spot. I have tried to retrace my steps to find where I ran across this, but have yet to be successful. I have been looking through so many sources trying to stay informed I've lost track. Once (if) I do, I will surely update.


http://www.nraila.org/media/10850041/113topline.pdf

 

[vamo]

8% of NRA members want forced buy back and 11% want an assault weapons ban?

 

[Steel Horse Rider]

I would say the NRA membership is more united than the membership of this organization. I would be surprised if this group even polled at 50-50.

 

[G.barnes]

I'm sure there are a lot of vets that support the NRA but haven't fired much since the war so an ar 15 is what they carried to them. I've heard a lot of vets say it. There are a lot of people who like guns but don't know crap about them except for the couple they own so they listen to the media about the rest.

 

[mj246]

^^^^^This and even more.

First there are definitely some vets, a subset of them likely members of the NRA who don't really know firearms as well as true enthusiasts and equate these so called "military-style" rifles with the same ones they either used or were used against them on deployment and think nobody except active military should have them. Some are also in favor of universal background checks (I have met at least one or two vets that fall into these two categories, but they were not members of the NRA).

There are also some members that are strictly into hunting or even personal defense that see no problem with banning certain firearms, restricting magazine limits, and having background checks on private sales and transfers (I've met these people too, although none of them are actually NRA members either).

However, the ones that are members and fall into these categories are a minority as far as I can tell and nowhere near the number that these anti-gun politicians and media would like the general populace to believe.

 

[G.barnes]

Not all but a lot of vets that I've met and heard that are for bans were not in actual combat. I can't think of a single person that I know for a fact has been combat that is for giving up our rights. The problem with some of the Vietnam vets is they were drafted. They only used a weapon because they were forced to. Those who joined of their own free will have different outlooks on guns.

 

[beatledog7]

91% of NRA members support laws keeping firearms away from the mentally ill.
•92% of NRA members oppose gun confiscation via mandatory buy-back laws.
•89% oppose banning semi-automatic firearms, often mistakenly called “assault rifles”.
•93% oppose a law requiring gun owners to register with the federal government.
•92% oppose a new federal law banning the sale of firearms between private citizens.

All those numbers are far better than the popular vote ratios of any anti-gun politician currently in office, I'll wager. Or any pro-2A politician, for that matter. Yet they seem to think 51% gives them carte blanche to lord over all.

You can't get 100% agreement on anything, even if you stack the deck.

 

[OilyPablo]

92% of NRA members oppose gun confiscation via mandatory buy-back laws.

As stated above. I'd like to meet the 8% folks!

 

[soonerfan85]

beatledog 7 said "All those numbers are far better than the popular vote ratios of any anti-gun politician currently in office, I'll wager. Or any pro-2A politician, for that matter. Yet they seem to think 51% gives them carte blanche to lord over all."


Don't you know that 51% is now considered a MANDATE from the people. And in some cases less than 50% if the vote is split among more than two candidates. The political process in this country is becoming a joke because there are too many professional polititions in the game. Term limits baby.