GooseGestapo
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Dobe;
I don't anneal, and I only neck turned to see if it affected case life and accuracy. It did, but mostly shortened case life due to split necks. Sorting brass by weight and brand makes more difference...... and loading technique.
I get 15-20 loadings from my Hornet brass, as I don't load especially hot, and mostly use Hod. Lil'Gun. I have a Lee Collet die, but prefer to full length size as I get better accuracy. (go figure! see below- off centered chamber on Ruger!)
I do cast a Lyman #225415 that runs 49.5gr with lube and gascheck (absolutely perfect). I prefer either SR4759 (6.8gr) or Alliant #2400 (5.2-5.8gr). My 100yds accuracy often equals that of the jacketed bullets. 2moa is easy, 1moa rare, but who cares? It's cheap. However, I shoot far more of unsized tumble-lubed bullets over 2.5gr of Bullseye for ~1,350fps. A duplicate of the .22 WRF (a little more than the .22lr). A real squirrel killer to about 50yds.(~2MOA accuracy). It does require re-sighting and thorough cleaning to remove copper fouling if I've been shooting jacketed bullets. Leading has never been an issue with either NRA50/50 or SPG, or Tumble lube at under 1,900fps.
I've had three Ruger "Hornets". A #3 Carbine (had a botched K-Hornet chamber), a 77/22 Carbine (had an oversized factory chamber), and my current 77/22KBZ (heavy barrel-stainless, Brown laminated stock)- it has a tight, but off center chamber, two-piece bolt has fitting issues, ect.......) I DON'T recommend the Rugers........although I've shot a few good groups with the current one, which I've kept for 10+yrs. It's been free-floated, glass bedded, trigger worked to ~32oz., ect. Just won't shoot tighter than ~1.25moa except on rare occasions...........Likes cast bullets though, so, I've kept it........
If I was getting a new Hornet, it'd be either a CZ-527 (first choice) or a Savage M40 (second choice), or a T/C Contender Carbine (tied for second). But I'd also consider the Remington 699 (mini-mauser), if specimen was good........
I don't anneal, and I only neck turned to see if it affected case life and accuracy. It did, but mostly shortened case life due to split necks. Sorting brass by weight and brand makes more difference...... and loading technique.
I get 15-20 loadings from my Hornet brass, as I don't load especially hot, and mostly use Hod. Lil'Gun. I have a Lee Collet die, but prefer to full length size as I get better accuracy. (go figure! see below- off centered chamber on Ruger!)
I do cast a Lyman #225415 that runs 49.5gr with lube and gascheck (absolutely perfect). I prefer either SR4759 (6.8gr) or Alliant #2400 (5.2-5.8gr). My 100yds accuracy often equals that of the jacketed bullets. 2moa is easy, 1moa rare, but who cares? It's cheap. However, I shoot far more of unsized tumble-lubed bullets over 2.5gr of Bullseye for ~1,350fps. A duplicate of the .22 WRF (a little more than the .22lr). A real squirrel killer to about 50yds.(~2MOA accuracy). It does require re-sighting and thorough cleaning to remove copper fouling if I've been shooting jacketed bullets. Leading has never been an issue with either NRA50/50 or SPG, or Tumble lube at under 1,900fps.
I've had three Ruger "Hornets". A #3 Carbine (had a botched K-Hornet chamber), a 77/22 Carbine (had an oversized factory chamber), and my current 77/22KBZ (heavy barrel-stainless, Brown laminated stock)- it has a tight, but off center chamber, two-piece bolt has fitting issues, ect.......) I DON'T recommend the Rugers........although I've shot a few good groups with the current one, which I've kept for 10+yrs. It's been free-floated, glass bedded, trigger worked to ~32oz., ect. Just won't shoot tighter than ~1.25moa except on rare occasions...........Likes cast bullets though, so, I've kept it........
If I was getting a new Hornet, it'd be either a CZ-527 (first choice) or a Savage M40 (second choice), or a T/C Contender Carbine (tied for second). But I'd also consider the Remington 699 (mini-mauser), if specimen was good........