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Any Krag owners?

Discussion in 'Rifle Country' started by Jim Mac, Oct 6, 2013.

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  1. Jim Mac

    Jim Mac Member

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    havent been on in awhile. Just purchased a 1898 krag thats been sportered. Im not really sure what these things go actually sells for. But Ive wanted one and I thought the price was reasonable so I went for it. The serial number shows it was built in 04, has a pacific peep sight and a 03 front sight. Barrel is still at 30" which is why it looks sort of out of proportion. No info on the stock but thought I'd post a pic up so enjoy.
    Price was $200 with a box of ammo.
     

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    I have a Model 1898 which I refurbished to it's original military configuration. It was given to me by a friend of my Dad and had been used by a local veterans organization as a parade rifle before being replaced by Model 1903-A3 and M1 rifles. The Krag had been chrome plated (probably back in the 1920s), and had a bright varnish finish covering the wood furniture. I deplated all of the chromed parts, cleaned them up and polished them, and then had them reblued which closely matched the original finish. I also carefully sanded down and refinished the stock in a stain mixture that closely resembled the color of the original Krags. All in all it turned out very well and I really enjoy having it as part of my collection.
     
  4. wrench

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    I think you did fine on price. I see sportered Krags around here going for $250-$350. Some folks asking more, don't think they often get it, though.
    If the bore is good, it should be a fine shooter, especially with the receiver sight.
    Congrats!
     
  5. kvtcomdo

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    Krags

    You did great.

    I too have 2(two) sporterized Krags and one original rifle.

    Great guns, easy to shoot well but better reload as ammo is iffy as far as availabilty at best.
     
  6. Hummer70

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    stock is definitely not original but a nice job nevertheless. The have a long throat in them if you are going to reload for it.
    I have one that was a cavalry carbine but was rebarreled as dirt dobbers built next in barrel.
     
  7. Curator

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    Krags with '03 front sights are often re-barrreled with '03 Springfield barrels. Many of the NRA sporters sold during the 20s to NRA members were rebarreled with surplus '03 barrels. These are actually an "upgrade" as the '03 barrels are made with tighter quality control. Original Krag barrels can have .303/310 bore-groove diameters. Bannermans sold 10,000 of these for $10 in 1921-22
     
  8. Willie Sutton

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    Wonderful rifle, I have a custom one that I had built as a full length Manlicher style sporter. These are very fine rifles and there's nothing at all to be ashamed of with the .30-40 cartridge on deer sized game. The action is one of the smoothest ever made. Love mine.


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  9. Jim Mac

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    is there any marking to tell if its a 03 barrel or if its the original barrel? Thanks for any info. jim
     
  10. fpgt72

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    I have one sporter Krag...the FIL did it back in the early 50's. Bought the gun out of a barrel at a hardware store...he could not afford the $25 for the 1903. He and his brother went in on the rifle, and they "made it fancy".
    I about gave him a heart attack after I told him what it would have been worth if it was original....he told me no one would pay that...showed him expired auctions on gunbroker.

    The other is a Carbine that looks like it was made yesterday....I have had that one for about 15years or so now.

    Only down side to a Krag is the ammo....get some brass and start reloading....factory ammo will cost you about $2 per bang....if you can find it.
     
  11. Cocked & Locked

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    I've got one sporterized 1898 Springfield .30-40 Krag. The serial number puts it at 1898 production.

    It had a vintage Redfield receiver sight that I've now replaced with a side mount and scope. I've hunted with it several times but have never taken a deer with it. Perhaps next week I will get one with it. I know the partial history of it after it was sporterized decades ago...two Elk and several deer.

    I have loading dies, etc. but currently have it sighted n with 180 grain factory Remington Core-Lokt.

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  12. MattShlock

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    Cocked -- nice rifles!

    A Krag was my first antique. Beautiful, buttery smooth, and historically interesting.
     
  13. TheHappyGunner

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    Seems like you did very well on your purchase, nice job! I've been looking for a sporterized Krag for a while. I do however have an unmolested example.

    I bought her about a year ago. Physically, she's by no means a collector. Bluing is at maybe 50% and the rifling is extremely worn. I can get 5" groups out of her at 100 yards though. But where she really shines is in her personal history. By having an acquaintance with the right resources (can't recall the name of the book he got it out of...) research her serial number, he determined that she was made in spring of 1898.. and then shipped from the Springfield Armory to company C of the 30th U.S. Volunteer Infantry stationed in Illinois later in early summer. This I know for sure. The book that was resourced was comprised of old federal armory documents some man personally researched and recorded many years ago down in a D.C. library. After I learned of the unit, I traveled to a local military history museum to uncover all the books I could that held info on company C of the 30th USV, and here's what I learned...

    By late summer that year, the 30th USV left San Francisco for the Philippines. They remained there until 1900 and patrolled the islands. Over the course of the time spent there, they were given the nick-name "red necks" because of the signature red bandannas that the 30th wore around their necks. They participated in 12 combat missions during their deployment, and marched/patrolled the most of any unit deployed at the time, covering at times what I recall being up to 12 miles per day. There were a couple of casualties within company C, and one man went missing. Unfortunately, there is no record of the specific soldier she may have been issued to. Perhaps she may have never gone to the Philippines at all! But I do know where her shipping destination was and what company she was to belong too, and that's plenty for me :)

    Anyways, I bought her last year when I was away at college. I was 19 at the time, and bought her through private sale from a man who was probably 4 times my age. He told me that for many years this Krag was used by the local VFW for burial ceremonies, and they shot black powder blanks through her.. and as a result her bore was very worn. He sold her to me for $600. Later, after I found out about her history, she's become practically invaluable to me; my favorite gun in my collection!

    ...whew... sorry about that. Talking about milsurps gets me all worked up! If I can find the name of the book later, I'll leave a reply here on this thread so maybe you can go out and buy the book and look to see if YOUR serial number is listed in there! I guess approximately 12,000 serial number are listed for Krags. And with a total production number of almost 500,000 chances are slim.. but ya never know! Again, congratulations on the purchase of a beautiful American gun!

    Here are some pictures of my Krag:

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  14. armsmaster270

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    The worst thing I ever did was to sell my 1898 Krag to my partner for his dad I kept the original furniture and put a Fajen custom stock something like Cocked & locked's on it. Sold it with 300rds of handloads. It was a tack driver.
     
  15. Red October

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    Definitely love the Krags.
    Just something about them that speaks to me.
     
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    My 1898 Krag was cut down about 100 years ago, and the stock trimmed and cross-hatched in imitation, I suppose of checkering. It wears a cocking piece sight -- a tiny peep sight dovetailed into the cocking piece knob.
     
  18. RPRNY

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    My Krag Sporter

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