Any SA pocket pistols out there?

[RyanM]

What the title says. What I'm looking for is a gun that:

1. Is single action, or is DA/SA with the option for cocked-and-locked carry.
2. Is genuinely pocketable and suitable for deep concealment. Something no bigger than the current generation of mouseguns for its caliber.
3. Is of good quality, from a reputable manufacturer with a good warranty.
4. Costs about $400 or less new or used.

Seems like nothing like that exists. All guns that match the second two criteria have long, heavy, gritty, stacky, obnoxious triggers, or are out of my price range.

 

[berettaman]

A Beretta 950BS Jetfire in 25acp is my pocket/bug/mouse/sneekgun whatever you want to call it. Used you can find one in the $150-$225 range.Reliable,lightweight,SA,C&L capable.

 

[LooterLefty]

Beretta mod. 21 'bobcat'

I just got one of these on friday. May be a smaller caliber than what some are comfortable carrying, but it meets all of youre requirements. And hey, it's better than a sharp stick.

Forgot: Mines a .22LR. They can be found for around $175-200, depending on condition. 22LR gives you a little more power than a .25

 

[berettaman]

I considered the 21 but the reliability issues between a rimfire and centerfire cartridge made it a no brainer.I went with a little less power for a lot more reliability.Not that it is a primary weapon or anything,but sump'n are bet'r th'n nuttin.

 

[Phantom Warrior]

The Colt Mustang might fit your requirements. Like a downsized 1911 in .380 ACP. There is a write up about one here. There are a couple on gunbroker.com in the $500-700 range.

 

[ugaarguy]

I'm looking for is a gun that:

1. Is single action, or is DA/SA with the option for cocked-and-locked carry.
2. Is genuinely pocketable and suitable for deep concealment. Something no bigger than the current generation of mouseguns for its caliber.
3. Is of good quality, from a reputable manufacturer with a good warranty.
4. Costs about $400 or less new or used.

Seems like nothing like that exists. All guns that match the second two criteria have long, heavy, gritty, stacky, obnoxious triggers, or are out of my price range.

Well the Kel-Tec P3AT meets criteria 2-4. The trigger is longer than an SA, but average for DA. It's not at all heavy, gritty, stacky, nor obnoxious. At under $300 w/ hardchrome slide, down to $230 with blued slide definetly stays in your sub $400 price range.

For a single action, this is the closest I've seen; http://precisionsmallarms.com/traditional.htm

 

[LooterLefty]

berettaman: the jury's still out on my .22lr, as I haven't had the chance to shoot it yet. I'm aware of the problems associated with getting rimmed cartidges to feed in a semi. But there are many glowing reviews of the .22 bobcat on the net, and I bought the proper ammo: win super-x. So the initial few range sessions will tell the tale. I'll post a range repot if i remember.

 

[Essex County]

I'll second the .380 Colt.....Essex

 

[RyanM]

Forgot to mention, I want something in .380 and up. Which was why I said "Something no bigger than the current generation of mouseguns for its caliber." The Beretta .25s are almost the same size as a Kel-Tec P3AT, but much heavier. Same for the little .32 they make.

I've been thinking of a Colt Mustang, looks like a very solid gun. But they're out of production. So if I get one and it breaks, I may just be SOL. Also, how big are those things? I can't find much information. Most of the older .380s are almost exactly the same size and weight as a Glock 26 or 27, just a little thinner.

 

[Josh Aston]

To meet your criteria in .380 and up the Colt Mustang is your only choice. Cylinder & Slide does custom work on them and probably has some spare parts in case one breaks. The Mustang is bigger than the Kel Tec but considerably smaller than any other .380 auto I know of.

 

[berettaman]

With such a restrictive creiteria you might look into a Derringer in 38spl or 45LC.

 

[Whirlwind06]

I have been looking for the same thing myself. It looks like there isn't anything new on the market. I saw a Colt .380 the other day. It fits the the bill but the guys was asking $650 for it.

 

[longeyes]

What Berettaman said. Look for a used Beretta Jetfire in .25acp. It meets all of your criteria...assuming .25 is enough for you.

 

[albanian]

There is a reason they don't make many guns like that. It is not because they just have not tapped into the vast market of people that wants a cock handgun pointed at their privates. I know walking around with a cock and (hopefully) lock pistol in your pocket seems like a fool proof plan but most people tend to be a little over protective of the family jewels. I don't see what the problem is, I get a rush out of loading a gun, cocking it, flicking on the safety and stuffing in my pants with my keys and change. I know there is no possible way for a safety to ever fail or get knocked off so I am not worried at all.

Sorry, to get back on point, I don't think there is a gun that meets all of your needs. The closest thing that comes to mind is a Colt Mustang. It is SA, .380cal and pretty small.

 

[KenpoProfessor]

This will help

http://www.mouseguns.com/PocketAutoComparison.pdf


Have a great Kenpo day

Clyde

 

[RyanM]

There is a reason they don't make many guns like that. It is not because they just have not tapped into the vast market of people that wants a cock handgun pointed at their privates. I know walking around with a cock and (hopefully) lock pistol in your pocket seems like a fool proof plan but most people tend to be a little over protective of the family jewels. I don't see what the problem is, I get a rush out of loading a gun, cocking it, flicking on the safety and stuffing in my pants with my keys and change. I know there is no possible way for a safety to ever fail or get knocked off so I am not worried at all.

Actually, planned methods of carry are ankle or crossdraw when carried as a backup, and Kangaroo Carry or ankle for deep concealment. Pocket is just way too slow for me, especially while sitting. So my family jewels are safe. I just said "pocketable," because that's a good standard for size. The guns that are slightly too big to ride in a jeans pocket are also big enough to be a pain when carried on the ankle (I have big calves), on the belt along with a G23, or in a belly band.

 

[pocketgun]

I used to carry a AMT Backup SA that met some of your criteria (1,2, and 4 - no warranty as they are out of business).

I eventually replaced it with a Kel-Tec P-3AT. I avoided the P-32 for years because I hated DAO triggers, but when the .380 model came out I gave it a try at a gunshow. The trigger is a bit long but quite light and smooth (5 pounds), and really changed my mind. No safety to mess with is a plus. Give one a try if you get a chance.

 

[Walt Sherrill]

The Kahr PM9 might be a pocket gun. And its a lot more potent than most of the guns suggested, thus far. Its thin enough.

(I've carried a Beretta Tomcat and a Kel-Tec P11 as pocket guns, but both are pretty wide -- and do better in a small yaquii-style holster. That's a good alternative to pocket carry, by theway.)

 

[pocketgun]

Agree the P-11 is big for pocket carry, at least for me. The PM9 is a better alternative for that type of carry, though still a bit big - for belt carry I would rather have the 12+1 P-11 however.