Anybody Not Like Shooting .357?
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I have a Rossi 2" snubbie. I love shooting full house .357 rounds through it. However, my carpal tunnel doesn't. After about 18 rounds my wrists really start feeling it.
I always take at least a dozen .357 rounds with me along with the .38 because you just have to do it. It makes the stress go away.
I always take at least a dozen .357 rounds with me along with the .38 because you just have to do it. It makes the stress go away.
Both me & my 4" 686 like it alot.
I shoot both .38 and .357 outta my 4" 686.
If I'm trying to focus on sight picture and grouping, and steady hold.. I load up the .38's.
But I always bring a box of 50, .357 to feel the kick. A natural smile just starts to appear on my face, as soon as the first round leaves the barrel.
I don't know if it's the gun or what, but it's alot of fun to shoot.
I shoot both .38 and .357 outta my 4" 686.
If I'm trying to focus on sight picture and grouping, and steady hold.. I load up the .38's.
But I always bring a box of 50, .357 to feel the kick. A natural smile just starts to appear on my face, as soon as the first round leaves the barrel.
I don't know if it's the gun or what, but it's alot of fun to shoot.
gregormeister
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I'd enjoy shooting my Taurus 650 if it cycled properly...
DWARREN123
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It is going to come down to how the firearm fits you and what type of grip is on it. Changing grips out can make a lot of difference.
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I like .357 Magnums out of my J frame snubbie. But maybe that's because it's stainless and weighs 22-23 oz. I haven't had the opportunity yet to try them in an Airweight. I suspect that might be a completely different experience. 
Deanimator
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I don't mind shooting .357, but preferably out of a reasonably heavy gun, like a Dan Wesson, Ruger Security Six, or best, an N frame S&W. Model 27s and Model 28s are very comfortable with any reasonable .357 round.
sargenv
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Out of my 10" Contender they are pip squeaks..Not much recoil.. out of my 4" 686 they are somewhat of a handful but not too punishing since I use the Hogue grips. I wouldn't shoot full power 357 magnums out of anything smaller than a 4" 686 or GP100.
I have a 4" 686 (7 shot) and a 640 snubbie. I think I still have half the second of two boxes of .357 ammo that I purchased to put down range through either. I was also gifted two other boxes of 5 year old .357 ammo that may take another 5 years to see the light of day through these revolvers. Mostly shoot .38 special gets abused through them, especially the 640. But, after changing the grips on the 686 it does feel better to hang on to. But two cylinders worth is about all this guy generally wants to shoot of357.
Nero_Atrum
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I actually feel more recoil from my PX4 in .40 than my dad's six inch .357 S&W (dont remember the model...). On the other hand the .357 out of his 2 inch S&W is just plain annoying to shoot.
To me it's the gun. I have a blackhawk with the stock grips that I hate to shoot 357 out of - but the standard blackhawk grips don't fit me well. Beats my middle finger up.
And then I have a N Frame S&W 27 with about an 8" barrel, and out of that gun it's no big deal, but carrying that gun around without a wheelbarrow can get tiring...
And then I have a N Frame S&W 27 with about an 8" barrel, and out of that gun it's no big deal, but carrying that gun around without a wheelbarrow can get tiring...
rhubarb
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I've shot some "hot" .357 out of my nephew's 6" Taurus and a bunch of different loads including some "hot" handloads from a friend's 4" GP100 and I don't see what the big deal is. Neither the recoil nor the sound really impressed me more than a full power 9mm. I never felt the grip sting or muzzle rise like when shooting a .44 mag or larger. I'd say my little KelTec .380 is a lot more violent than a full-size .357.
The only thing I dislike about the .357 is the limited number of rounds that'll fit in a cylinder.
The only thing I dislike about the .357 is the limited number of rounds that'll fit in a cylinder.
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.357 Magnum is just a caliber. There are many loads for this caliber. The one load that many shooters find obnoxious to shoot tends to be a 125 gr. bullet at between 1300-1400 fps. and higher. This load produces a great deal of muzzle flash (which contributes to felt recoil) and noise.
But there are other loads. Some for hunting and some for self defense. For the latter both Speer and CCI Blazer make a 158 gr. jhp load at about 1200 fps out of a 4" barrel. This can be a good load for self defense.
http://www.midwayusa.com/eproductpage.exe/showproduct?saleitemid=271149
There are also a 140 and 147 gr. load at about 1250 fps which also has a good record and is more pleasant to shoot than many 125 gr. loads.
http://www.midwayusa.com/eproductpage.exe/showproduct?saleitemid=268014
http://www.midwayusa.com/eproductpage.exe/showproduct?saleitemid=412571
Look for either of these and give them a try. And there are plenty of others.
tipoc
But there are other loads. Some for hunting and some for self defense. For the latter both Speer and CCI Blazer make a 158 gr. jhp load at about 1200 fps out of a 4" barrel. This can be a good load for self defense.
http://www.midwayusa.com/eproductpage.exe/showproduct?saleitemid=271149
There are also a 140 and 147 gr. load at about 1250 fps which also has a good record and is more pleasant to shoot than many 125 gr. loads.
http://www.midwayusa.com/eproductpage.exe/showproduct?saleitemid=268014
http://www.midwayusa.com/eproductpage.exe/showproduct?saleitemid=412571
Look for either of these and give them a try. And there are plenty of others.
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Blasphemy!
The .357 isn't bad at all with cast bullets. Recoil isn't bad and neither is noise. Jacketed bullets, OTOH, are obnoxious to fire(noise). I find that I have more problems with the noise than with actual recoil...
Only reason not to shoot the .357 is because you're busy shooting a .44 mag or warm-hot .45 colt.
The .357 isn't bad at all with cast bullets. Recoil isn't bad and neither is noise. Jacketed bullets, OTOH, are obnoxious to fire(noise). I find that I have more problems with the noise than with actual recoil...
Only reason not to shoot the .357 is because you're busy shooting a .44 mag or warm-hot .45 colt.
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I figure you realize that this makes no sense. LSWC, JHP, semi'jacketed, hard cast lead or soft makes no difference as far as noise goes or felt recoil or actual recoil. Bullet weight, charge, pressure, etc. have more to do with it than the type of bullet fired.
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mewachee
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Hot 357's out of my sp101 have a little bite, but it puts a smile on my face.
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As long as it isn't a light weight snub-nose I don't mind them. I like shooting a Colt Python though.
I agree. I don't enjoy shooting it, and let a guy with a .357 show up on the range, and there'll be a number of people around him who don't enjoy it either.
Several guys I've talked to at my range have sold their .357's, especially the snubbies.
The .45 ACP has less recoil, less muzzle blast, less muzzle flash and less muzzle rise. It can be used in weapons that fire and reload faster, and is near the top of the rating charts for stopping power.
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God, what a bunch of girls.....357 is okay, but hot .45 Colt is mo bedda, at least until I can get a .454 Casull.
Out of a K frame, 14.5 grains 2400 behind a Lee gas checked 158SWC is a pleasure! I really had fun with the little SP101 with 180 grain XTPs at 1302 fps with 13.8 grains AA#9. That one will wake you up. I shoot the lighter 158 grain load for 99 percent of my shooting same reason as 1911Tuner does, it's easier on the guns. Actually, it puts down deer quite well, too, ain't THAT mild, just a tick off the fire breathing hot of some of my other loads. It puts up 1470 fps or so out of my 6.5" Blackhawk and is quite accurate. It puts up something around 1850-1900 fps out of my Rossi 20" M92 carbine, deadly on deer to 100 yards. I like the 180 load for hunting, but it's kinda warm and I can't afford to be bustin' caps on store bought bullets anyway. That 158 grainer I cast from range scrap for the price of a gas check. Absolutely no bore leading even out of the rifle.
But, it ain't no .357. If all you do with a handgun is self defense or small game hunting, nothing wrong with lesser calibers. I carry a .38 and a 9mm a lot, more compact pocketable guns. I have a .45, but it's frankly easier to carry the more powerful .357 magnum and if I carry IWB, that's usually what I'm totin'. It's lighter, more compact, easier to tote IWB, and I shoot it well. I have always liked magnum revolvers. Nothin' like horsepower to get the job done. Needs a 3" barrel or better, though. That's one bane of the .357, the snubbies are neutered. I sold my SP101, will get a 3" if I get another. I have a Taurus 3" M66 and it shoots harder and with the extra sight radius, I can shoot it better. It's not a whole lot harder to conceal than the SP101 was.
Out of a K frame, 14.5 grains 2400 behind a Lee gas checked 158SWC is a pleasure! I really had fun with the little SP101 with 180 grain XTPs at 1302 fps with 13.8 grains AA#9. That one will wake you up.
I shoot the lighter 158 grain load for 99 percent of my shooting same reason as 1911Tuner does, it's easier on the guns. Actually, it puts down deer quite well, too, ain't THAT mild, just a tick off the fire breathing hot of some of my other loads. It puts up 1470 fps or so out of my 6.5" Blackhawk and is quite accurate. It puts up something around 1850-1900 fps out of my Rossi 20" M92 carbine, deadly on deer to 100 yards. I like the 180 load for hunting, but it's kinda warm and I can't afford to be bustin' caps on store bought bullets anyway. That 158 grainer I cast from range scrap for the price of a gas check. Absolutely no bore leading even out of the rifle.But, it ain't no .357.
If all you do with a handgun is self defense or small game hunting, nothing wrong with lesser calibers. I carry a .38 and a 9mm a lot, more compact pocketable guns. I have a .45, but it's frankly easier to carry the more powerful .357 magnum and if I carry IWB, that's usually what I'm totin'. It's lighter, more compact, easier to tote IWB, and I shoot it well. I have always liked magnum revolvers. Nothin' like horsepower to get the job done. Needs a 3" barrel or better, though. That's one bane of the .357, the snubbies are neutered. I sold my SP101, will get a 3" if I get another. I have a Taurus 3" M66 and it shoots harder and with the extra sight radius, I can shoot it better. It's not a whole lot harder to conceal than the SP101 was.MCgunner
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There's lots of 158 lead SWC on the market, store bought ammo, that's mildly loaded. Probably where the confusion lies. I've fired some off brand factory stuff over my chronograph that barely beat or DIDN'T beat good .38 +P. Loaded like a MAGNUM, bullet construction makes no difference, only bullet weight and powder charge matters to recoil.
Well, 14.5 grains of 2400 ain't THAT much more expensive than 2.7 grains of Bullseye. But, yeah, the .38 WC loads are a little cheaper to shoot. A box of 50 .357 sets me back maybe three dollars. That's a real budget killer. ROFL! If you ain't reloadin', you're screwin' yourself.
I tried out my new 3" SP101 the other day. I loaded it up with .38 Special first just to get the feel of the pistol. It felt really good in the hand. The recoil wasn't bad at all.
Then I loaded up with some DoubleTap .357 magnum. Talk about brisk. But it was manageable. Before I knew it I was a little bit more than halfway through my box of 50 rounds. I was feeling fine. I was at an indoor range and my head received a rapping by the concussion even though I was wearing earplugs.
I can see why people may be turned off with full-power .357 mag. The SP101 handled it well though and this pistol will NEVER be sold. I love it. I think .38 Special +P may be perfect for most applications; and be more comfortable to shoot.
One pistol that can shoot 3 different loads. ALL reliably. As I was shooting my 1911 (a whole different feel), those familiar doubts arose in my mind. Will it jam? Failure to extract? Am I limpwristing? With the revolver that all disappeared.
Then I loaded up with some DoubleTap .357 magnum. Talk about brisk. But it was manageable. Before I knew it I was a little bit more than halfway through my box of 50 rounds. I was feeling fine. I was at an indoor range and my head received a rapping by the concussion even though I was wearing earplugs.
I can see why people may be turned off with full-power .357 mag. The SP101 handled it well though and this pistol will NEVER be sold. I love it. I think .38 Special +P may be perfect for most applications; and be more comfortable to shoot.
One pistol that can shoot 3 different loads. ALL reliably. As I was shooting my 1911 (a whole different feel), those familiar doubts arose in my mind. Will it jam? Failure to extract? Am I limpwristing? With the revolver that all disappeared.
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I enjoy shooting my GP-100 4" but prefer my 9mm and .45acp's and other calibers, namely .32acp and .380acp and Makarov.
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