I've been through Hornady GMX's, Nosler E-Tips, and Barnes TSX's. Shooting them through my pre-64 in 270. Sometimes I can make two holes touch, but then the last one will be around an inch off. A couple times I shot a 3 shot group 3" (which really bothered me). I've yet to shoot one group under an inch. Nothing seems to be consistent. I used the GMX's and E-Tips in 130gr and the TSX's in 150. I have been using a gun Caldwell gun rest to assure this isn't shooter error. When I was shooting Sierra HPBTMK's I was shooting sub-moa. Anyone shooting sub-moa with full copper? Anyone else having issues with copper like this? Suggestions would also be appreciated. Thanks.