I visited another colt 1911 forum site, and got banned after posting one post.
Anyone had a similar experience? Here's what went down.
I posted pics of two 1911 colts I had, and asked people to comment on how much they might be worth if I were to sell them in a private sale (as opposed to a dealer).
The mods ignored the bit about "how much might they be worth" and just interpreted the thing as a "for sale ad". Without even asking me my intent, they simply deleted the message, and sent me nasty-grams about violating the "no for sale ad" rule.
I replied thusly:
And, of course, they immediately took me up on my offer, in spite of the fact that I specifically acknowleged their rules, and their right to make those rules.
So, I'm not upset that they banned me, and not really suprised either.
But I have to wonder what sort of mentality takes someone else's thoughts, reads their OWN intent into them, and then bans the other based upon their own faulty interpretations?
Is this kind of thing common among gun disccusion boards?" Or is this one site somehow unique? I'm hoping for the latter.
kwallace
Anyone had a similar experience? Here's what went down.
I posted pics of two 1911 colts I had, and asked people to comment on how much they might be worth if I were to sell them in a private sale (as opposed to a dealer).
The mods ignored the bit about "how much might they be worth" and just interpreted the thing as a "for sale ad". Without even asking me my intent, they simply deleted the message, and sent me nasty-grams about violating the "no for sale ad" rule.
I replied thusly:
If you state that you are "thinking" about selling a gun - that is a for sale ad.
No. That is someone saying they are thinking about selling a gun. Thinking about something, is, by its very definition, the opposite of actually doing it!
If you state that you have two guns, and "one of them has to go, help me decide" - that is a gun for sale ad.
No. That is someone asking for help making a decision about a selection between two things - not the sale of one of them.
If you state "I wonder what this gun is worth if I were to sell it" - that is a gun for sale.
No. This is someone trying to find out the value of something they own - not trying to establish a price and conduct a sales transaction. Again, thinking is by definition NOT doing.
If you state "I have a gun for sale on ebay" - that is a gun for sale.
I'll grant this one on a technicallity. It's still not a sales offer by any means, but I'm feeling rather concillatory.
For something to constitute a sale, an item must be identified as being "FOR SALE" and it must actively solicit an offer. The ad must state, specifically, or imply without any doubt by choice of words that merchandise, as described, is being offered in exchange for a price or offer, or trade, or other exchange or remuneration. The offer must be made in the context of a sale, or in a place where it is commonly understood that an item is for sale (ie, a "for sale" forum).
If it does not do all these things, IT IS NOT A SALE AD.
As an example of all this: parking my car in my front yard does not consititute an offer of sale. But if put a sign on it that says "For Sale", or mark it in any other such a way that clearly identifies my specific intent to sell, such as by placing a dollar amount on it in a conspicuous location, only then is it an offer for sale. Lacking these clear identifying marks, people in my yeard would not be contemplating a purchase - they would be trespassing.
You risk having your membership revoked if you do not follow the "no firearms for sale" rule.
Revoke away, dude. I signed up just last night, and I'm more than willing to find another place to exercise my freedom of speech today. And I'm more than willing to accept your limitations as laid out by your rules. It is, after all, your forum. No matter how ludicrous I think your rules are; they are your rules.
And, of course, they immediately took me up on my offer, in spite of the fact that I specifically acknowleged their rules, and their right to make those rules.
So, I'm not upset that they banned me, and not really suprised either.
But I have to wonder what sort of mentality takes someone else's thoughts, reads their OWN intent into them, and then bans the other based upon their own faulty interpretations?
Is this kind of thing common among gun disccusion boards?" Or is this one site somehow unique? I'm hoping for the latter.
kwallace