Anyone else plagued with the remington trigger recall?

[gto.kroh]

Just curious how many others have been plagued with the recall? Had I known I wasnt going to have my rifle 3+ months I would have just gone through the trigger myself...... im mildly irritated with remington at the moment... I purchased a 700 sps in 300aac blk for a deer rifle and it is looking as I may not have it in time for hunting season...

Im not sure what to think. This is the first remington I have ever bought and may be the last.

 

[GLShooter]

No plague here. Setting on three of them and another two that are GTG. I've got gunscrubber and tools to clean them up and Timney ten miles down the road. Their warranties were voided within two hours of getting to the house. Triggers are tweaked as soon as the barrels are cleaned. I feel your pain and hope a miracle appears.

Greg

 

[hoghunting]

I replaced my triggers with Timneys, would have done it even without the recall as Timney makes a much better trigger.

 

[Vern Humphrey]

I have a thing about buying a gun that needs parts replaced before you even fire it. That's why the only Remington I own is a 541X target .22 I got through the CMP.

 

[joed]

Nothing wrong with Remington at all in my opinion. They were ripped apart by the nightly news and maybe even unjustly.

I've had one of them since 1978 and it still has the original trigger. Stupidity I guess as the others have Timneys installed in them.

My last Remington is an SPS VS Stainless purchased 5 years ago and is on the recall. The original trigger from the factory was very crisp. But no adjustment I did would get it under 5 lbs. So it was replaced with Timney. One of the things I didn't like with the factory trigger was I think it had a whole tube of epoxy on it. I'm sure that was done to discourage the average individual from tinkering with it. It discouraged me and was replaced.

I'm also sure the rifle from 1978 was on a recall. No thank you. I can promise you when they come back from the factory they won't break at any weight I think is good.

But, I won't put Remington's 700 down. I've also owned Winchester, Savage and Ruger and think the Remington beats Savage and Ruger hands down. I've never had any complaints other than the I feel they should free float the barrels on the 700.

 

[Vern Humphrey]

But, I won't put Remington's 700 down. I've also owned Winchester, Savage and Ruger and think the Remington beats Savage and Ruger hands down. I've never had any complaints other than the I feel they should free float the barrels on the 700.

They should also add a Winchester-style 3-position safety. I don't like having to go hot to load and unload, and I hate going through the brush with the bolt handle not locked down.

 

[GLShooter]

Nothing wrong with Remington at all in my opinion. They were ripped apart by the nightly news and maybe even unjustly.

I've had one of them since 1978 and it still has the original trigger. Stupidity I guess as the others have Timneys installed in them.

My last Remington is an SPS VS Stainless purchased 5 years ago and is on the recall. The original trigger from the factory was very crisp. But no adjustment I did would get it under 5 lbs. So it was replaced with Timney. One of the things I didn't like with the factory trigger was I think it had a whole tube of epoxy on it. I'm sure that was done to discourage the average individual from tinkering with it. It discouraged me and was replaced.

I'm also sure the rifle from 1978 was on a recall. No thank you. I can promise you when they come back from the factory they won't break at any weight I think is good.

But, I won't put Remington's 700 down. I've also owned Winchester, Savage and Ruger and think the Remington beats Savage and Ruger hands down. I've never had any complaints other than the I feel they should free float the barrels on the 700.

I agree with you. The first SPS I had was really gooped up. I finally bought a little butane torch to crispy critter that junk.

Greg

 

[barnbwt]

Guys, gun smithing work you pay for usually takes months, and Remington is both fairly incompetent and going through a lot these days. If you wanted the job done right and on time, a pricey drop-in trigger was the obvious solution from the start. Cost, time, quality; pick two.

TCB

 

[Sheepdog1968]

I have two that have the x mark pro in them. One is a range weapon only so I'm in no rush. The other is a hunting rifle and it won't get used till it has a new trigger. I don't trust Remington anymore so Jewl and Timmney triggers are in my future.

 

[cat_IT_guy]

It was all the excuse I needed to pick up a Timney. Very happy with my purchase.

 

[jmorris]

Never had any problems with the ones I have. Not one to fix unbroken things myself.

 

[rbernie]

They should also add a Winchester-style 3-position safety. I don't like having to go hot to load and unload, and I hate going through the brush with the bolt handle not locked down.

This.

The ORIGINAL fix that Remington applied to their trigger was to remove the bolt lock feature. When that didn't work, they were forced (several decades later) to redesign the unit again and conduct a recall.

Ugh - a pox upon all Remington triggers.

 

[texgunner]

I didn't bother with the recall. I have four Rem 700s that are on the recall list. One had the trigger worked over by a local gunsmith before the recall was announced and the other three now have Rifle Basix triggers.

 

[MistWolf]

No three position safety for me, thank you very much. There should be only one click from SAFE to FIRE. I don't want the extra travel the Winchester safety has and I don't wanna fumble thumb the safety from "SAFE-BOLT LOCKED" to "BOLT UNLOCKED BUT RIFLE STILL WON'T FIRE" when presented the shot of a life time.

If the shooter wants the rifle to be in SAFE mode while unloading the rifle, get a Browning A Bolt. It uses a two position safety that locks the bolt and has a separate button to unlock the bolt while the safety is in the SAFE position to facilitate unloading.

I think the need to have the safety engaged while unloading a rifle is over rated.

I've been around Remington triggers all my life (with the exception of the newest type). They are plenty safe when maintained properly and adjusted correctly. While the Timney is a fine trigger (I have one installed in a Mauser rifle I've been shooting since I was a young boy), it offers little advantage over a Remington trigger set up for field use.

The whole Remington trigger debacle has been decades of much ado about nothing and has been mostly fueled by the wrath of gun haters and the tragic stupidity of those who didn't handle their rifles safely

 

[Vern Humphrey]

The ORIGINAL fix that Remington applied to their trigger was to remove the bolt lock feature. When that didn't work, they were forced (several decades later) to redesign the unit again and conduct a recall.

Ugh - a pox upon all Remington triggers.

Yep. Buy a Remington 700, then buy a Timney trigger and a Gentry Winchester style safety -- and you'll still have a rifle that flings your brass to who-know-where.

 

[jmr40]

At this point it doesn't matter much, Remington is circling the drain and I don't see much hope in saving them. The heart of the problem was a bad decision made in 1946 to continue with a flawed design after being warned about what it could do. The 1946-2006 trigger design should have never been put in any gun.

The early 1980's safety redesign was a band-aid which caused more problems than it solved. The original 2 position safety that locked the bolt should have been kept and the trigger proposed in 1946 used instead.

I've been around Remington triggers all my life (with the exception of the newest type). They are plenty safe when maintained properly and adjusted correctly.

Just because you've never had an issue means nothing. 99.99% of all of these guns will never have a malfunction, but 100% of them have the potential to do so regardless of how well they are maintained or adjusted. With 5 million in production .01% is still a lot of guns. The problem can be traced to the useless trigger connector. It isn't needed and is in no other trigger design, yet if it just happens to slide into the right position the sear will release. It doesn't matter how clean or dirty the trigger is or if it is adjusted to 6 oz., or 6 lbs. The fact that it rarely happens does nothing prove that it never happens.

I've spent a lifetime outdoors and never once been struck by lightening, doesn't prove it doesn't happen. I have seen a Remington fire with no trigger pull. So have thousands of others over the last 68 years. This issue is just too well documented to claim it is "much ado about nothing". There is plenty of damning evidence but some choose to bury their heads in the sand and blame the problem on the news media. Kill the messenger mentality.

 

[Vern Humphrey]

The early 1980's safety redesign was a band-aid which caused more problems than it solved. The original 2 position safety that locked the bolt should have been kept and the trigger proposed in 1946 used instead.

Going to a 3-position safety would have been a good idea, too.

 

[ArchAngelCD]

You do realize there is nothing wrong with the XMP trigger itself and this a voluntarily recall. IMO they are stepping up and doing this on the outside chance someone might get hurt or worse.

DESCRIPTION OF THE HAZARD: Remington has determined that some Model 700 and Model Seven rifles with XMP triggers could, under certain circumstances, unintentionally discharge. A Remington investigation has determined that some XMP triggers might have excess bonding agent used in the assembly process. While Remington has the utmost confidence in the design of the XMP trigger, it is undertaking this recall in the interest of consumer safety to remove any potential excess bonding agent applied in the assembly process.

I don't have one of the effected rifles but my son does. He's not sure if he will be sending the rifle in or changing the trigger.

 

[jerkface11]

There's nothing wrong with it? Is that why they recalled ALL of them?

 

[jmorris]

99.99% of all of these guns will never have a malfunction, but 100% of them have the potential to do so

Yes, just a simple fact of any mechanical device.

 

[M1key]

Mine is scheduled to arrive tomorrow. Been about 9 weeks. I plan on leaving the factory trigger intact.

M

 

[MistWolf]

At this point it doesn't matter much, Remington is circling the drain and I don't see much hope in saving them. The heart of the problem was a bad decision made in 1946 to continue with a flawed design after being warned about what it could do. The 1946-2006 trigger design should have never been put in any gun.

The early 1980's safety redesign was a band-aid which caused more problems than it solved. The original 2 position safety that locked the bolt should have been kept and the trigger proposed in 1946 used instead.



Just because you've never had an issue means nothing. 99.99% of all of these guns will never have a malfunction, but 100% of them have the potential to do so regardless of how well they are maintained or adjusted. With 5 million in production .01% is still a lot of guns. The problem can be traced to the useless trigger connector. It isn't needed and is in no other trigger design, yet if it just happens to slide into the right position the sear will release. It doesn't matter how clean or dirty the trigger is or if it is adjusted to 6 oz., or 6 lbs. The fact that it rarely happens does nothing prove that it never happens.

I've spent a lifetime outdoors and never once been struck by lightening, doesn't prove it doesn't happen. I have seen a Remington fire with no trigger pull. So have thousands of others over the last 68 years. This issue is just too well documented to claim it is "much ado about nothing". There is plenty of damning evidence but some choose to bury their heads in the sand and blame the problem on the news media. Kill the messenger mentality.

The documentation has never been 100%. Yes, the Remington trigger can be adjusted improperly and cause problems, but adjusted correctly, it works and is safe. Triggers adjusted to have the correct amount of sear adjustment, are clean and not worn or broken don't have problems.

I don't get it. People will defend the RR two stage trigger to the death despite the fact some of them were improperly case hardened and wore from use until they double and triple. But they are willing to jump on the band wagon to excoriate the Remington trigger because of the ignorance of a few users. The surreal part of this whole thing is that if it wasn't for the anti-gun propaganda machine that sensationalized that early court case (which Remington won), it would have died off long ago