Anyone Have a HD Load for 30-30

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I know, definite overkill. But you can shoot the head if accuracy is there. Ain't used it for that yet, but seems in Nov the squirrels run you over when you're laywaiting a deer.
 
The potential for over penetration is what I’d be concerned with. A light handgun bullet, HP, would likely act like a varmint bullet at higher speed. Explode on contact. That would be the direction I’d look first.

Second would be a custom hollow point bullet mould at around 130-140 grains. Pushed hard enough to expand rapidly. Softest alloy I could get to work.
 
I know the 150 grain bullets I have expand pretty darn fast at standard velocity. One hit my push pin holding the target in place and in the distance from the push pin to the cardboard opened a 1” hole. There was melted plastic stick to the hole from the pushpin head.
 
DMW1116 said:
I know the 150 grain bullets I have expand pretty darn fast at standard velocity. One hit my push pin holding the target in place and in the distance from the push pin to the cardboard opened a 1” hole. There was melted plastic stick to the hole from the pushpin head.
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Cool man! Got any pics? Did you aim for the pin or miss and hit it?
 
like SD, as in firing inside a house if someone breaks in? if I was going to tackle this - I'd probably want to know at what reduction in load the report drops off enough so I'll maybe save some of my hearing. possibly use a hollow point, and there is also probably a drop off in recoil, that would make it quicker and easier to handle. yup, if I was messing with this, I'd just load some reduced loads in a ladder and go with whatever just felt the best and fastest for follow up shots, but - still potent enough.
 
film495 said:
like SD, as in firing inside a house if someone breaks in? if I was going to tackle this - I'd probably want to know at what reduction in load the report drops off enough so I'll maybe save some of my hearing. possibly use a hollow point, and there is also probably a drop off in recoil, that would make it quicker and easier to handle. yup, if I was messing with this, I'd just load some reduced loads in a ladder and go with whatever just felt the best and fastest for follow up shots, but - still potent enough.
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The report is significantly reduced about 1100 fps.... ;)
 
Interesting thread like many other but I gotta laugh. Loading the perfect HD/SD round sounds like Goldilocks wanting it "just right". I have my HD guns loaded with factory ammo. Period. I want it to work. Plus I wouldn't want the press to say I had "premeditated" some special load I made my self to shoot someone. Everyone talks about shooting an intruder but if it actually came down to it you would be happy with whatever ammo you had and a clean pair of shorts after. jmo
 
Scooter22 said:
Interesting thread like many other but I gotta laugh. Loading the perfect HD/SD round sounds like Goldilocks wanting it "just right". I have my HD guns loaded with factory ammo. Period. I want it to work. Plus I wouldn't want the press to say I had "premeditated" some special load I made my self to shoot someone. Everyone talks about shooting an intruder but if it actually came down to it you would be happy with whatever ammo you had and a clean pair of shorts after. jmo
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Well in the case of a 30-30 having a hunting load would be most easily explained... it's a hunting rifle...
 
If he had them in stock (which he doesn't), I'd get a pack of the 95 grain bullets here and load them with Trail Boss, following the generic guidelines for that powder in rifles. It would be very quiet and soft shooting, but would probably hit half a foot low at 25 yards due to reduced recoil if you didn't adjust the scope.

He does have the RCBS 150s. Those also over Trail Boss would still be really mild but a little closer to your normal POI. They'd also overpenetrate worse.

I'd hate to get shot by either.

http://westernbullet.com/30caliber.html
 
I found a box of the Hornaday sub x 190s at academy today for 45 dollars. That's a little much imo but if I was doing your project I might have bought them.
 
Bazoo said:
The potential for over penetration is what I’d be concerned with. A light handgun bullet, HP, would likely act like a varmint bullet at higher speed. Explode on contact. That would be the direction I’d look first.
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.30 caliber handgun bullets? What won't they think of next?
https://www.grafs.com/catalog/product/productId/6285
Good luck finding any...

This is why I'm always kinda tempted to get a .35 Remington or .35 Whelen. It would be nice to have it share bullets with the revolvers for plinking ammo. But since I'm too lazy to go hunting, I don't buy either.
 
Buck13 said:
.30 caliber handgun bullets? What won't they think of next?
https://www.grafs.com/catalog/product/productId/6285
Good luck finding any...

This is why I'm always kinda tempted to get a .35 Remington or .35 Whelen. It would be nice to have it share bullets with the revolvers for plinking ammo. But since I'm too lazy to go hunting, I don't buy either.
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I've been eying 30 carbine bullets cheap at rmr, they don't have a cannalure and I don't have the tool.
 
Airborne Falcon said:
Bingo! You beat me to it. I use exactly that boolit and was happy they told me about putting some of my 300 BLK to good use.
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Now those look interesting. No idea where to start for load or if they’ll stabilize ina 30-30 but they’d be fun if they did. They look like they’d fly like an arrow with no feathers.
 
AJC1 said:
Well in the case of a 30-30 having a hunting load would be most easily explained... it's a hunting rifle...
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Exactly. It,s what you bought and had on hand for hunting. Not made specifically to shoot someone in your home. Buckshot and soft points they sell at the local store. Over penetration? You could get that with almost any centerfire rifle or pistol load. Besides you wouldn't worry about what load you had if a guy whacked out on "bath salts" tried to kick in your door in the middle of the night with the wife and kids screaming. I was lucky that night. So was he.
 
AJC1 said:
I've been eying 30 carbine bullets cheap at rmr, they don't have a cannalure and I don't have the tool.
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I’ve been looking at those too. Does the brass vs copper jacket cause trouble?
 
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