Anyone know how many CCW?

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I find it hard to believe that some states have no CCW laws. I know they say if they did everyone would be packing. I wonder if anyone might know the number of people that actually bother to get a CCW in states that allow. As in what percentage of the population even bothers or wants to carry. I have a hard time believing that it would create a wild west nightmare with everyone shooting the place up.
 
Quote: I know they say if they did everyone would be packing.

They say it like it's a bad thing. Check Packing.org
 
I think the state BCA keeps track of that and posts it yearly, as well as the number of crimes committed by permit holders, and what they are. At least in Mn.
 
Of the proportion of eligible citizens, the numbers are, IIRC, uniformly low.

We're talking typically tens of thousands versus hundreds in even the more populous states, and that's just those who get permits.

The number who actually carry 24/7 is probably much, much smaller. Many just get them for transport or purchase convenience.
 
I have a hard time believing that it would create a wild west nightmare with everyone shooting the place up.
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The "Wild West" is a Hollywood/Dime Novel lie.

Violent crime rates during the time of the "Wild West" were IIRC 1/10th what they are today.


In truth Right to Carry laws do bring us closer to the "Wild West" days because they do cause crime rates to drop (with the exception of automobile theft ... for some weird reason it seems to go up after right to carry laws are passed).
 
There may be 4 states where there is no CCW, but at least in NJ it's effectively denied. It's difficult, costly, and time-consuming to simply purchase a handgun there, and CCW permit applications are routinely denied. Yet shooting deaths still occur. Beware, NJ wants to reach into your state and restrict gun purchases where you live because it seems you're to blame for their inability to control crime.

I thought it wise to escape that state before they built a wall.
 
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Wow, 7% of the population. That must be upwards of a dozen people in SD. I think that is a higher percentage than the number of people in SD that bathe regularly. :D
 
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Sorry for the razzing but I couldn't help it. I have had bad luck with SD. Been there three times in my whole life. Once while driving a u-haul to help a friend move. It expoded and caught fire in the middle of nowhere. The whole truck burnt to the ground. Another time while moving across country and got stuck in a blizzard at a nasty hotel for 6 days. Then finally went to visit a friend and while we were in a truck stop eating a guy backed his truck over our rental car. And I do mean "over"...he nearly crushed it flat. :)
 
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can't help the hotel... they are what they are, and if you don't know where you are, you're liable to get yourself into a bad spot. rental car crushing is pretty funny, though. u-hauls... well, i-90 across s.d. in the summer time is really hard on vehicles, especially the area between kadoka and presho/pierre. see more vehicles getting hot there than that long stretch of upward climb into los angeles on i-5...

blizzards... yeah, we just got 20" of snow... they happen.
 
As I understand it, 1 in every 40 people in Florida has a CCW. Although that's good I think 1 in 10 would make the odds a LOT worse for the bad guys when they're trying to figure out who they're gonna mug....;)

We'll just have to keep working in that down here in the "Gunshine State."
 
In Michigan, the latest figures I've seen from the Michigan State Police report on CPL issuance, were that about 125,000 Michigan citizens have a Concealed Pistol License. That's a little over 1% of the Michigan population.
 
V35, NJ is not alone. Massachusetts wants to ban guns in NH and VT. They claim that all the handguns in Boston are coming in through New Hampshire and Vermont, espescially through gun shows. I've been to a couple shows in NH and Mass where reporters (obviously trying to disguise themselves) have walked up to the out of state dealer's tables and attempted to purchase a handgun without an ID. Needless to say, I've never seen the expose on these sales because they never happened.
 
PP, you hit on something there. One of the reasons my wife and I got out CHP's is to support those who worked so hard to pass the law here in Virginia.

She came here from Chicago, and was just amazed to find out that not only could she buy a gun, she could carry it that she couldn't wait to get it. She said "A lot people must have worked really hard to get a law like this passed. If we don't take advantage of it, "they" will say "Look, nobody wanted this law in the first place. Let's repeal it."

We've both got our permits now, and carry most every day.
 
According to the map at Packing.org, there's 4 where the right is denied.

Wisconsin
Illinois
Nebraska
Kansas
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It's worse than that. How about getting a CCW in California? California is "shall issue". In nearly the entire state this means "almost nobody".
 
According to the NYSP there are 1,156,122 on file in New York and 13,416 were issued in 2002, the last year the information has been updated. Take it FWIW.

Edit: According to the last census, NY has a population of 18,976,547.
 
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How about getting a CCW in California? California is "shall issue". In nearly the entire state this means "almost nobody".
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As a former california resident, I can somewhat back this up. IT's up to the sheriff's dept in each county on who to give a ccw to.
The most populous counties in northern and southern california, sure, it's nearly impossible unless you're Diane Fienstein, or someone else that helps the sheriff get elected. However, in other counties it's practically shall-issue:

http://www.packing.org/state/california/image.php?stateimage=118

EDIT: Yes, anti-gun senator Diane Feinstien DOES have a permit. Great, isn't it?
 
Tennessee reports having issued around 165,000 permits, almost all of them since we went "shall-issue" in 1995, so presumably most of those permit holders are still alive and keep the permits current. (We've only had a few dozen revoked to my knowledge). Not South Dakota per capita, but not bad for less than 6 million folks.

DanO
 
There may be 4 states where there is no CCW, but at least in NJ it's effectively denied. It's difficult, costly, and time-consuming to simply purchase a handgun there, and CCW permit applications are routinely denied. Yet shooting deaths still occur. Beware, NJ wants to reach into your state and restrict gun purchases where you live because it seems you're to blame for their inability to control crime.

I thought it wise to escape that state before they built a wall. -v35

or before we built a wall, and you'd have been stuck:)
 
V35, NJ is not alone. Massachusetts wants to ban guns in NH and VT.
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This is getting OT but I can't help but relate the following... several years ago we had a rash of mailbox vandalism in the rural NJ community I moved from. Several of us homeowners became concerned about the "broken window theory", so we got together and invited the NJSP to give us a presentation on a neighborhood watch group. The state trooper remarked that our area was rather safe because most of the homeowners there were gunowners, and the criminals (he used a more derogative term that I won't repeat) were well aware of that fact. Word on the street was to leave us alone.

The mailbox vandalism ceased, too.
 
The four non-issue states' anti-CCW leadership don't seem to realize that they're simply good targets. Hawaii, NJ, and other states that are theoretically CCW-legal (but as a practical matter are not) are fuzzier, more vague targets, politically speaking.

And to the four states add the District of Columbia, anyway. You'd think that with the federal dominance Republicans have, and the relative freedom from needing to adhere to states' rights dogma, that DC would have been pulled back a bit from their complete 2nd Amendment repeal.
 
From the Michigan Coalition of Responsible Gun Owner website

Today - there are approximately 187520 Michigan CPL holders.
 
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