anyone own a kel tec sub 2000?
- Thread starter tonytuna
- Start date
- Status
45_auto
Member
I have a 9mm Sub-2000 that uses Glock mags.
I would imagine that the top two design requirements for the Kel-Tec Sub-2000 designers were:
1) Gun must be profitable - production cost must be less than probably $150 or so.
2) Gun must reliably shoot bullets.
I'm sure it had a bunch of others relating to folded size, max weight, color, mags it must accomadate, etc, but those will be the two primary ones.
The purpose you put it to will be up to you, just like any other gun. You can hunt with it, use it for home defense, stow it away as a boat gun, use it for target shooting, plinking, etc.
I'm sure that in the design requirements somewhere was one for it to be used by my granddaughter to load up a 33 round mag and knock down steel plates with it, since that's what it's primarily used for. But I have no doubt that it could just as easily fulfill any other role you desire it to.
I would imagine that the top two design requirements for the Kel-Tec Sub-2000 designers were:
1) Gun must be profitable - production cost must be less than probably $150 or so.
2) Gun must reliably shoot bullets.
I'm sure it had a bunch of others relating to folded size, max weight, color, mags it must accomadate, etc, but those will be the two primary ones.
The purpose you put it to will be up to you, just like any other gun. You can hunt with it, use it for home defense, stow it away as a boat gun, use it for target shooting, plinking, etc.
I'm sure that in the design requirements somewhere was one for it to be used by my granddaughter to load up a 33 round mag and knock down steel plates with it, since that's what it's primarily used for. But I have no doubt that it could just as easily fulfill any other role you desire it to.
Ragnar Danneskjold
Member
I think it would make a nice vehicle carbine, especially if you own a pistol that takes complimentary mags. I'd get one if they made a version that took M&P magazines.
I think it was designed for law enforcement and also back packers. The magazines all match law enforcement guns and the folding feature makes it easy to stow in a car trunk or back pack. It looks like it was intended to replace Marlin Camp 9 rifles that the police use to use.
I have one in 9mm and as far as I'm concerned it was designed to have fun with. Its accurate if you mount a red dot on it and its hard to miss a soda can at 50 yards. Its also cheap to shoot in 9mm compared to .40 caliber.
It would probably make a good home defense rifle as well but you can't unfold it with a round already in the chamber. That would require the extra step of unfolding it as well as cocking it. The lack of a last shot hold open is also a mark against it.
I have one in 9mm and as far as I'm concerned it was designed to have fun with. Its accurate if you mount a red dot on it and its hard to miss a soda can at 50 yards. Its also cheap to shoot in 9mm compared to .40 caliber.
It would probably make a good home defense rifle as well but you can't unfold it with a round already in the chamber. That would require the extra step of unfolding it as well as cocking it. The lack of a last shot hold open is also a mark against it.
Tainta_Claus
Member
- Joined
- Apr 30, 2011
- Messages
- 14
Not sure as to the intent of the design, but I bought one to compliment my glock. Same magazines, same ammunition, seemed like an economical choice. I think pistol carbines in general have always been kind of a niche market. I haven't found it to be a tool that will fulfill any one specific purpose, but it could be used as a fun plinker, HD, truck gun (in my case a car gun, which makes the folding aspect useful). It is a nice middle ground between a pistol and a rifle. I would prefer to use my m1 carbine in the role, but with the ammunition cost, the value of the gun, it has become a safe queen. Sub2k is a cheap, utilitarian alternative, and I like it.
MrDig
Member
So if I have a P 11 it would take those Magazines? I need to look into that
No. (Well, maybe.)
Kel-Tec makes various models in 9mm and 40 cal that can use different manufacturers mags but none are compatable with Kel-Tec mags.
I'm thinking the most common version (at least from the ones I've seen personally for sale) is the Glock version.
Edit: It appears from the post below that I have no idea what the heck I'm talking about. Sorry for the misinformation.
Last edited:
I cannot definitively answer this question. However, the p11, which I own, is designed to take S&W 59-series magazines. There is a variant of the sub2k which takes S&W 59-series magazines. However, the standard 10/12 round mec-gar magazines that fit flush with your p11 may not be long enough to reach the mag catch in the sub2k - this is mere speculation however, as I do not own a sub2k, but I have heard that the sub will not take the baby glock 9mm magazines, so there may be some truth to it.
However, the 15+ round magazines that work in the S&W 59 (factory, mec-gar, promag, etc.), that additionally work in your p11, may work in that one variant of the sub 2k.
- Status