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Anyone seen a nagant revolver like this, what do I have?

Discussion in 'Handguns: Revolvers' started by roccoracer, Mar 10, 2012.

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  1. roccoracer

    roccoracer Member

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    I picked this up yesterday and cannot find any information on it. The nickle plating is original (verified by a proffesional) And on the side plate it does not have the arsenal stamp or year or manufacture. It also has a plaque on the grip with some russian writing. Thank you for looking.
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  2. TurtlePhish

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    It looks like some commemorative piece or something that'd get given to an officer or something. Never seen anything like it...

    Probably worth a pretty penny.
     
  3. roccoracer

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    I cant find the mark thats on the side plate anywhere. Ive searched using every phrase I can think of online and no luck.
    Can anyone translate the wrighting on the grip?

    Thanks, Scott.
     
  4. rcmodel

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    Gonna have to have a better photo then that to read it, let alone translate it.

    rc
     
  5. MikeJackmin

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    Here's a (slightly) better view:

    [​IMG]

    The circular emblem looks like a hammer and sickle on a globe, surrounded by wheat sheaves, over a field, or perhaps a sunrise?

    Do you have a flatbed scanner? Just lay the gun on the scanner and run it like you're scanning a sheet of paper, it usually works quite well.
     
  6. EVIL

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    I don't know but that sure is a cool piece of history! I'd hang on to it.
     
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    Wouldn't it be cool if after making the scan, we could just make endless extra copies? :)
     
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  8. USSR

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    Looks like it might be an Honorary Presentation Weapon from the early years (1920's) of the Soviet Union. Your scans are terrible, so I can't make out the writing, but it does appear to be Cyrillic.

    Don
     
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    I've got someone who could translate if you can get a readable pic. Maybe hit it with a little talc to make the letters stand out.

    Sent from my PB99400 using Tapatalk
     
  10. runes

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    What a great find. I never saw one quite like that.
    My Nagant came out of the Tula factory in 1930 and I love the quirky little thing.
    If you have a lathe .223s cut down and sized in .30 carbine dies will give cheap brass.
    You will have to turn a small portion down near the base but it leaves a rim that works fine.
     
  11. roccoracer

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    Here is a picture of what the lettering is and a better picture of the plaque. [​IMG][​IMG]
     
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    Wow, that is very different. I think you have a rare find there. Like said above, it is probably a presentation piece which means it could be one of a kind or one of very few.
     
  13. Buford57

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    CCCP = USSR

    November 15, 1939


    Now somebody who can really read Russian please do the rest.
     
  14. Mizar

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    Hello. The marking on the side plate is the USSR coat of arms. As for the plate - your version of it doesn't make any sense - sorry. You mixed Cyrillic with English letters. I can translate the text, but for that I will need a bigger and more contrast picture. As for "PBC CCCP" - it may stand for Revolutionary Military Council of USSR, but the RMC was dissolved in 1934. This revolver is a reward weapon, not a presentation piece and might have some significant value.

    Boris
     
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    My wife is Russian. She can make little sense of the photo or transcription - you've got most of the cyrillic letters wrong.

    But it's..

    1st line: Tovarisch (comrade) (abbreviated form) followed probably by a name. If you could transcribe the letters accurately or get a better photo, she could ID the name.

    2nd line: To "an organization..." she can't make out what organization because again, the letters are transcribed poorly.

    3rd line: Revolutionary Military Council of the USSR.

    4th line: K. E. Voroshilov

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kliment_Voroshilov

    The linked Wiki article has the name as K Y Voroshilov, but in Russian the middle name Yefremovich is spelled with an E and he was the chairman of the Revolutionary Military Council.

    Edited to add: Maybe just use some white crayon to bring out the lettering? The wife says you'll never get the transcription correct because it's in script rather than block letters.
     
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    can't wait to get all of the info on this. seems to have everyone stummped.
     
  17. roccoracer

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    I will work on getting a better picture today. Thank you for all the help.
     
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    meanwhile, what's the story on how you got the thing?
     
  19. roccoracer

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    It was a gift from a friend who owns a gun store. He said in 40+ years he had never seen one like it. He thought it would be a nice piece for my collection.
     
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    Neat old gun. I hope you can get a good translation of the inscriptions. I could use a friend like yours who owns a gun store! Keep shootin'
     
  21. roccoracer

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    Is this better? I am working on some hd pictures to post. [​IMG]
     
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    Fascinating. Even if it had zero collector value, that is really nifty. Just as interesting would be the story of how such an unusual firearm came to your location in all these years, war trophy, smuggled with an immigrant, interesting.
     
  23. Mizar

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    KodiakBeer got most of it translated. The text translate to English as follows:

    comrade Navrodski
    from People's Commissar for Military and Naval Affairs
    and the chairmen of the Revolutionary Military Council of USSR
    Kliment Yefremovich Voroshilov

    tov/arish/ Navrodskamu
    ot Narkomvoenmora
    i pred/sedateliam/ RVS SSSR
    K. E. Voroshilova

    It seems that you have some quite interesting and rare revolver, given by a very famous and of high rank Russian official. Congratulations.

    Boris
     
  24. roccoracer

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    Here are some good pictures.[​IMG][​IMG][​IMG][​IMG][​IMG][​IMG]
     
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    Do you think this has any real value? I am not selling but more for insurance purposes.
    Thank you
     
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