Anyone take a good knife fighting class?
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Yes, several and the results have been variable (as you would expect).
If you don't take different courses from different teachers then you never learn whether you're dealing with a "gym bunny" or someone that knows what they're talking about. They don't have to "have been there and done that" to know what they're talking about either. They do need to have learned from the lessons paid in blood that others learned though.
If you don't take different courses from different teachers then you never learn whether you're dealing with a "gym bunny" or someone that knows what they're talking about. They don't have to "have been there and done that" to know what they're talking about either. They do need to have learned from the lessons paid in blood that others learned though.
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brownie0486
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Several in the Southeast.
There are good instructors around the country.
Most will be partial to their own instructors unless like hso puts it, you have seen several and can see the difference between someone who knows the blades well and those who are flash.
I know of people burned bad and still thought they got some great material. It happens. Ask for creds and background.
My impression is that the better fighters are not found in the local dojo's though that may be the only source for knife training in that area.
I traveled at my expense over several years to learn from a few people I considered capable of imparting the knowledge I needed. I wasn't dissapointed.
Brownie
There are good instructors around the country.
Most will be partial to their own instructors unless like hso puts it, you have seen several and can see the difference between someone who knows the blades well and those who are flash.
I know of people burned bad and still thought they got some great material. It happens. Ask for creds and background.
My impression is that the better fighters are not found in the local dojo's though that may be the only source for knife training in that area.
I traveled at my expense over several years to learn from a few people I considered capable of imparting the knowledge I needed. I wasn't dissapointed.
Brownie
brownie0486
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Anyone take a good knife
CWL:
Thanks for the support sir.
I finished a one day knife seminar with Executive Protection people yesterday in RI.
Picked up a few more classes with the RI Correctional dept's and a NGuard unit leaving in two weeks for Iraq who attended as well.
One of the students was a MA instructor with 20 years MArts behind him, at the class yesterday, gave me one of the nicest compliments I have recieved from someone in that venue. He stated that he had never seen what I show and that it was the most effective and simple to learn he had seen in all his years in the arts.
He's a LTC in a guard unit and wants his people to be in front of me before they go over in two weeks.
Plus I got a good workout at the same time. Most of the guys [ and 1 gal ] there yesterday were your typical no necks type [ bullet sponges ].
Brownie
CWL:
Thanks for the support sir.
I finished a one day knife seminar with Executive Protection people yesterday in RI.
Picked up a few more classes with the RI Correctional dept's and a NGuard unit leaving in two weeks for Iraq who attended as well.
One of the students was a MA instructor with 20 years MArts behind him, at the class yesterday, gave me one of the nicest compliments I have recieved from someone in that venue. He stated that he had never seen what I show and that it was the most effective and simple to learn he had seen in all his years in the arts.
He's a LTC in a guard unit and wants his people to be in front of me before they go over in two weeks.
Plus I got a good workout at the same time. Most of the guys [ and 1 gal ] there yesterday were your typical no necks type [ bullet sponges ].
Brownie
cold
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RE: Knife Training
I usually keep my head down here, but I figured I could add something in this thread. I have worked (training) with Brownie for about a year now with about 50 hours one-on-one attention. My first impression was 'Wow', this stuff works. I do not have a MA background at all, but feel pretty confident the training I have received will keep my bacon out of the fryer. I have now progressed to assisting Brownie in training others. We worked a class of executive protection folks in a neighboring state yesterday and their reaction was the same as mine in earlier training sessions. I spoke to a prison guard manager who attended and was very impressed with the defensive and controling nature of the techniques. By the way, he was the prisons defensive tactics instructor. However, the techniques can be escalated to end threats very quickly, as in the case of multiple attackers. The result was many requests for further training.
Other training time will be with James Keating in October.
So, to answer the original question: Knife training can be very beneficial in increasing your abilities to defend yourself.
Mike
I usually keep my head down here, but I figured I could add something in this thread. I have worked (training) with Brownie for about a year now with about 50 hours one-on-one attention. My first impression was 'Wow', this stuff works. I do not have a MA background at all, but feel pretty confident the training I have received will keep my bacon out of the fryer. I have now progressed to assisting Brownie in training others. We worked a class of executive protection folks in a neighboring state yesterday and their reaction was the same as mine in earlier training sessions. I spoke to a prison guard manager who attended and was very impressed with the defensive and controling nature of the techniques. By the way, he was the prisons defensive tactics instructor. However, the techniques can be escalated to end threats very quickly, as in the case of multiple attackers. The result was many requests for further training.
Other training time will be with James Keating in October.
So, to answer the original question: Knife training can be very beneficial in increasing your abilities to defend yourself.
Mike
brownie0486
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I'm a little surprised that with all the people on this forum that carry various edged tools, only three have responded imcluding myself relative any knife training. One of the others is one of my students.
Come on guys and gals, there must be more of you out there and not responding. What is the point in carrying a tactical folder with possible defense with same in mind if you have not even the basics in knife defense.
Thats like carrying a gun with no instruction in even the basics of it's use.
Lets hear from others.
Brownie
Come on guys and gals, there must be more of you out there and not responding. What is the point in carrying a tactical folder with possible defense with same in mind if you have not even the basics in knife defense.
Thats like carrying a gun with no instruction in even the basics of it's use.
Lets hear from others.
Brownie
Without suggesting a specific person, I would suggest you seeking out one of the Filipino martial arts (FMA) with a knife fighting component or emphasis. The techniques are very realistic, combat oriented, and work with a range of blade lengths. Even the shorter tactical folders with 2 1/2 to 4 inch blades. Also, unlike most martial arts, the FMAs start you on weapons immediately rather than waiting a few years for you to attain a black belt level.
I've been studying the Modern Arnis branch of FMA for almost a year and I feel much more competent with a blade.
As you should do before working with any martial arts instructor check their credentials and insist on paying on an "as you go" (e.g., monthly) basis rather than signing long term contracts.
Feel free to PM me if you have any questions.
- Anthony
I've been studying the Modern Arnis branch of FMA for almost a year and I feel much more competent with a blade.
As you should do before working with any martial arts instructor check their credentials and insist on paying on an "as you go" (e.g., monthly) basis rather than signing long term contracts.
Feel free to PM me if you have any questions.
- Anthony
mons meg
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I posted a thread a few weeks back asking pretty much the same question...lots of ppl talking about knives, but noone talking about how or where they train. That being said, I would put myself firmly in the Kali camp, but ppl need to realize like any other MA system, it doesn't come to you overnight.
Do I feel confident with a blade? good question...I feel like I could defend myself if all I had was my 4" folder, but I would much rather have a Glock 29.
Do I feel confident with a blade? good question...I feel like I could defend myself if all I had was my 4" folder, but I would much rather have a Glock 29.
i didn't feel qualified to comment, because bad advice concerning this subject is more dangerous than no advice. use of the short edged weapon is both the most simple and the most intricate combat art.
my "training" started on the streets, of LA and San Fran, and was not "classic" in any sense of the word. formal training was LE related and mostly defensive (as opposed to knife vs. knife). the best demonstration of use of the knife in combat was by a practitionor of FMA also.
my advice to avoid a knife fight ... if you can't do that, learn enough grappling skills to control and disarm
my "training" started on the streets, of LA and San Fran, and was not "classic" in any sense of the word. formal training was LE related and mostly defensive (as opposed to knife vs. knife). the best demonstration of use of the knife in combat was by a practitionor of FMA also.
my advice to avoid a knife fight ... if you can't do that, learn enough grappling skills to control and disarm
Bruddah_Al
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Sonny,
I've done FMA for about 15 years now and I'd like to say that it's given me a critical eye on knife fighting. So before I answer your questions would you quantify them a little bit more for me.
When you ask about knife fighting, are you talking about a dueling mentality or fighting from a surprised position?
Worth the money for a seminar or a prolonged study?
Learn alot in terms of application or art?
Al
I've done FMA for about 15 years now and I'd like to say that it's given me a critical eye on knife fighting. So before I answer your questions would you quantify them a little bit more for me.
When you ask about knife fighting, are you talking about a dueling mentality or fighting from a surprised position?
Worth the money for a seminar or a prolonged study?
Learn alot in terms of application or art?
Al
mercop
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My home dojo hosted Tacticalone.com Law Enforcement Edged Weapon Tactic Instructor Course taught by Rob Ross. Top notch intense training. Hey Brownie, next time you are heading down 95 stop in for some free coffee and conversation. My Sensei just got his 9th Degree in Yoshin Ryu Ju Jitsu. He has been at it for 36 yrs. We invite anyone to visit.
brownie0486
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Thanks mercop,
I appreciate the offer. Haven't traveled out of NE for awhile but will certainly keep that in mind if heading your way.
Last time through your state I was headed to HK in virginia for Swat and Counter-sniper courses about 7 years ago and when I drove to LR, Ark and New Orleans for the Riddle Souths with Keating and Saucier for blade training.
Need to get out of NE more often, but need to drive everywhere as I won't be without the "tools of the trade".
BTW--your statement at the end of your subjects is so true. People should take note and act accordingly. Good one.
Brownie
I appreciate the offer. Haven't traveled out of NE for awhile but will certainly keep that in mind if heading your way.
Last time through your state I was headed to HK in virginia for Swat and Counter-sniper courses about 7 years ago and when I drove to LR, Ark and New Orleans for the Riddle Souths with Keating and Saucier for blade training.
Need to get out of NE more often, but need to drive everywhere as I won't be without the "tools of the trade".
BTW--your statement at the end of your subjects is so true. People should take note and act accordingly. Good one.
Brownie
Gomez
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I'll throw in my two cents, I think that the knife is an excellant tool and is a lot more useful than a gun in certain situations. Like a gun, it does require training to be truly useful. "Knife fighting" is a misnomer, I don't know that there's a lot of use in learning to "knifefight" but there is a whole lot of use in knowing how to use a knife.
I think that a good short-format defensive folding knife course is a great way to jumpstart your knife training. I've done several. I'll also second/third/fouth the Filipino Martial Arts as a great way to train edged weapons.
If you carry a tool and can't use it is nothing more than anting-anting.
I think that a good short-format defensive folding knife course is a great way to jumpstart your knife training. I've done several. I'll also second/third/fouth the Filipino Martial Arts as a great way to train edged weapons.
If you carry a tool and can't use it is nothing more than anting-anting.
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