Anyone use Lee Auto Disk Adjustable Powder Charge Bar

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I just bought a Lee Auto Disk Adjustable Powder Charge Bar and test it using Titegroup at 4.4gr. but it was very unreliable. I cycle it at least 20 times before measuring and I was getting anywhere from 2.0gr. to 4.5gr. It also leave a lot of powder on top of the bar. My regular Lee disk meter consistently with Titegroup, but the .37 cavity will give me 4.1gr. and the .40 cavity will give me 4.6gr. so I thought I try the charge bar to get 4.4gr. but this thing is waste of money.:mad:
 
A lot of guys use them. Mine works great. You may not have it installed properly. The arm that moves the charge bar has to be in the small slot on the drop end. When properly installed, the srew adjustment will extend past the base of the autodisk, so it's easily turned.
 
I had a similar experience using the adjustable bar with Titegroup, though my measured variation was only +/- 0.3 grains or so; small, but more variation than desired in a light pistol charge. I did not notice any powder on top of the measure. Possibly the wiper on the AutoDisk is worn?

Two things I mean to try before I give up on the adjustable bar:

1) The auto-disk itself was fussy until it had lots of powder through it, and was well-coated with graphite. I'm going to try running more powder through the adjustable bar and see if the loads settle down to something more consistent.

2) It may be the shape of Titegroup. I plan to experiment with other powders (presently I've Universal Clays and H4895 on-hand) and see if different powder shapes or types influence reliability.
 
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The ones I own work very well--

I have five of them, installed in five different measures. Titegroup is in one of the measures, and it is metered very reliably. My first guess is that you had the hopper screwed down too tight, but there could be other minor problems.

Try doing this:

1. Disassemble your measure, and put the powder back into its original container.

2. Now clean everything: the Lee reservoir, the powder measure base, the adjustable charge bar, the drop tube, the linkage. I use the proverbial 'gun scrubber' / brake fluid type of product.

Pay particular attention to cleaning the surfaces at the bottom of the reservioir and the top of the charge bar. If there are any rough spots, take them off with a fine grit paper on a flat backer. If your measure is the latest version, inspect the wiper / seal to see that it is not damaged. (New ones are available from Lee)

3. Inspect the actuating linkage and when you reassemble it, put a drop of oil on the mounting pin. (No oil elsewhere.)

4. Now reassemble, and pay close attention to the installation instructions: You have to get the actuator lever into the correct slot on the underside of the charge bar.

5. As you install the hopper, tighten the screws 'a bit'--not blindly just tightening them 'good and tight.'

6. Without powder in the measure, install it on your press and try indexing it with cases to test the measure operation. If the bar binds, loosen the screws slightly; if the hopper is loose, tighten it slightly--etc., etc.

7. Now add the powder and test it again. Tweak the hopper mounting screw tightness as needed. My measures have no leakage to speak of--although AA#7 can leak a bit. Titegroup just shows the odd kernel escaping. All of them, however, have had the very rare occasion of a granule getting between the hopper and the bar, with possible binding, so always watch the actuator when you dump the powder and confirm the bar moved properly.

And--as a following post reminds me--the bar does not work reliably below about 3 gr, AFAICT.Jim H.
 
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I had the same experience with mine-I gave up on it. I tried it with Bullseye, W231 and 2400 so I don't think it was the powder choice. I just couldn't seem to get the drops very consistent. Maybe I'll run thru the list on the above post and give it another try.
 
I had the same experience with mine-I gave up on it. I tried it with Bullseye, W231 and 2400 so I don't think it was the powder choice. I just couldn't seem to get the drops very consistent. Maybe I'll run thru the list on the above post and give it another try.

I tried it with Bullseye to get a light 3.5gr load under a 147LRN 9mm bullet & had a similar experience. Gonna try it with unique next and see if it does the same thing.

I'll run through the list too and see if it helps though...

Thanks for the suggestions jfh!:)

TFC
 
Titegroup measures very accurate in my charge bar until I get close to 3 grains. Double check to make sure it is installed right and that the powder die is adjusted so it is moving out completely over the drop hole.
Rusty
 
I don't find the adjustable charge bar to be as reliably consistent as the disks across different powders. Maybe because the adjustable cavity is not round and it does not always fill up as consistently with some powders. The double disk kit will increase the number of combinations. - Phil
 
Mine has worked well. Just stay away from smaller charges of flake powders such as Unique.
 
A lot of guys use them. Mine works great. You may not have it installed properly. The arm that moves the charge bar has to be in the small slot on the drop end. When properly installed, the srew adjustment will extend past the base of the autodisk, so it's easily turned.

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Also, make sure you have the round part of the valve (base) towards the charge bar adjustment screw! I caught myself putting this on backwards and could figure what was wrong for a while!

Mine works great but I agree with Eagle103 Unique doesn't measure real consistent. Just need to cycle it a good many times till it gets coated with graphite, etc.
 
I'm pretty sure the adjustable charge bar was intended and designed for small rifle charges. I use it with Ramshot TAC and 223 cases, and it meters 25 grains perfectly.

I'm pretty sure when you get down to the smaller charges you will have issues.
 
I've found the adjustable charge bar can get erratic below about 3 grains, but it depends on the powder / powder type.

Jim H.
 
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